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#133744 - 08/01/2003 16:47 No hard disk found (occasionally)
willebear
journeyman

Registered: 04/06/2002
Posts: 96
Loc: Louisville, KY USA
I occasionally get the "No hard disk found contact support" and before I can dry the tears from my eyes, it's working again. Usually after I restart my car.

It is a very cold winter, could this have anything to do with it? I'v already replaced the cable that connects the hard drives and one of the hard drives is new. Any ideas.

Thanks
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#133745 - 08/01/2003 17:33 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: willebear]
David
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Registered: 05/05/2000
Posts: 623
Loc: Cambridge
The dodgy crimp in the cable is affected by temperature (things exapnding and contracting). If you have a dry joint on the IDE header (fairly rare) then that is even more affected.

You also mentioned that it was very cold - most hard drives don't like being used in temperatures lower than -5degC.

Contact support for a replacement drive cable and give that a try.


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#133746 - 09/01/2003 00:46 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: willebear]
juenk
journeyman

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 84
Loc: Waardenburg, The Netherlands
> I occasionally get the "No hard disk found contact support" and before I can dry the tears from my eyes, it's working again. Usually after I restart my car.

> It is a very cold winter, could this have anything to do with it? I'v already replaced the cable that connects the hard drives and one of the hard drives is new. Any ideas.

I experience similar issues these cold weeks... When In-car, first boot results in the no-disk error. Using Hijack reboot option, it boots nicely afterwards (therefore probably no bad cable crimp effect).
I think it has to do with the cold (car battery drain just after initial car engine start) in combination with a dual HD-empeg (2 HDs have to spin up before succesfull boot). My spare single-HD unit never showed this behaviour.

Jelle
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#133747 - 09/01/2003 10:19 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: willebear]
csf
member

Registered: 08/04/2002
Posts: 105
Loc: Charlotte, NC
I had the same problem that became increasingly worse over time. A single drive wouldn't cause issues but a dual drive setup wouldn't work.

I got a new drive cable and everything has been great since (after I hot-glue-gunned the connecters to teh drives).
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#133748 - 09/01/2003 10:54 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: csf]
lopan
old hand

Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 970
Loc: Manassas VA
I get this error too, I thought it was just due to low power....
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#133749 - 13/01/2003 12:41 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: willebear]
bbowman
enthusiast

Registered: 12/05/2002
Posts: 205
Loc: Virginia, USA
I was getting this error for a while. I would pull it out, give it a slight shake, then put it back in and it would work. Simply restarting wouldn't do the job. After a couple weeks of this, the shake didn't fix it anymore so I took it inside and opened it up.

All I did was press on the IDE cables at the joints and it worked fine again and haven't had trouble with it for a couple weeks. I believe it does have to do with some constriction due to colder temperatures.
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#133750 - 08/08/2003 15:18 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: David]
bloch309
new poster

Registered: 22/04/2003
Posts: 9
It would be great if support e-mailed you, but it's been months and I have not heard a peep. I need another cable... Trying to find the thread I replied to before asking for one...
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#133751 - 08/08/2003 16:07 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: bloch309]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
? Did you email support or reply to a thread??

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#133752 - 08/08/2003 20:58 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: tman]
bloch309
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Registered: 22/04/2003
Posts: 9
Both. I had been distracted for quite a while... so I was never able to look back at the thread I replyed to about it. now I can't find the thread. I e-mailed:
david@empeg.com and carsupport@sonicblue.com

was there another address I should have tried?
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#133753 - 08/08/2003 23:41 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: bloch309]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Rob Schofield took over from David around New Year, but the sonicblue address should have been valid. There were some problems in the process of Rob taking over support (covered in other threads), but he's now up and running.

Not sure if the sonicblue address is still operational (considering SB going under and parts sold off...) The current email address for support is carsupport@xs4all.nl

/Michael
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#133754 - 11/08/2003 08:22 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: mtempsch]
bloch309
new poster

Registered: 22/04/2003
Posts: 9
OK, Thanks for the info. I have sent a e-mail requesting a new cable. Thank you for all of your help.
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#133755 - 29/09/2003 09:36 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: bloch309]
bloch309
new poster

Registered: 22/04/2003
Posts: 9
still no word... and stil lwith out my empeg

Does any one know who else I can bug to get a cable?
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#133756 - 29/09/2003 10:24 Re: No hard disk found (occasionally) [Re: bloch309]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Does any one know who else I can bug to get a cable?
Yourself. There are instructions here showing how to re-crimp the cable yourself.

Of course, that can only help if the problem is the cable. The problem could be the IDE header or any number of other things, all listed at the link above. Check them all to be sure.
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