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#76438 - 28/02/2002 17:39 Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221
anonymous_coward
new poster

Registered: 23/02/2002
Posts: 7
Somehow I can't get the empeg to automatically restore the last visual when powering it up in DC mode. As the subject states, I'm running beta 11 with hijack 221. I've enabled both the 'restore dc/car visuals' and the 'restore visuals (v2beta11)' options in the hijack menu. This is what happens:

1. I'm running the empeg in DC mode looking at funnelweb.
2. I pull the empeg out of the docking bay, then put it back in.
3. The empeg boots, the player starts and displays 'info: track'

If I understand correctly, hijack should simulate a press of the lower button at this point, making the player display the last visual. Unfortunately, nothing like that happens ;-) If I press the button myself, the player will go back to the last visual as expected.

Now... did I miss something? I've read a lot about problems with beta11 regarding this feature but thought a workaround was implemented in hijack some versions ago.

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#76439 - 28/02/2002 17:54 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: anonymous_coward]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hijack doesn't simulate a long downpress. It does something a little more complicated. But it should still work.

Try this. Go to the player's MAIN MENU and HAND-SELECT info:Track. Then hand-select info:Transient.

Now try the power pull.

Did it work this time? If so, let us know, and then Loren can add that to the FAQ.
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#76440 - 28/02/2002 17:56 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tfabris]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
You're not the boss of me!
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#76441 - 28/02/2002 17:59 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: loren]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hey, I said "can", not "must" or "will".
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#76442 - 28/02/2002 18:03 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tfabris]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Gasp, is this some form of friendly turf stepping pissing war in disguise? Battle between FAQ writers. Gasp!

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#76443 - 28/02/2002 18:04 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: eternalsun]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I don't think so. Loren's in much better shape than I am. He could probably kick my ass.
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#76444 - 28/02/2002 19:44 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tfabris]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Hahah. It's all in Jest... but I'll take you in a snowboard chicken fight! =D
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#76445 - 01/03/2002 03:02 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tfabris]
anonymous_coward
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Registered: 23/02/2002
Posts: 7
Unfortunately, it didn't work. After selecting 'info: track', then 'info: transient' and rebooting, it will still stay in 'info: track' mode. Is there anything else I can try?

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#76446 - 01/03/2002 10:32 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: anonymous_coward]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Did you turn off the "Show Visual Names When Switching" feature? Mark just recently let slip the arguably critical piece of information that this is required in order for the feature to work.

Also, is your player experiencing this bug or this bug perhaps? Or have you done anything else nonstandard to the player or in the Hijack kernel that might make it get confused about its home/car position?
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#76447 - 01/03/2002 10:37 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tfabris]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Actually, the visuals naming thingie is not needed for the Restore DC/Car Visuals function. It's only needed for the v2beta11 bugfix option.

Can anyone else here reproduce this person's problem?

Thanks

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#76448 - 02/03/2002 14:12 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tfabris]
anonymous_coward
new poster

Registered: 23/02/2002
Posts: 7
Nope, my player has no problem recognizing wether it's in the car or at home. I'm also aware of the 'growing config.ini' bug and the workaround.

Hmmm.. this sucks. I can't be the only person on the planet having this problem or can I? ;-)

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#76449 - 04/03/2002 04:49 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: mlord]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Restore Visuals has never worked for me in the car, but I've only had Hijack a few days and it doesn't bother me enough to figure it out. Player 2.0b11, display visual_names = 0.
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#76450 - 04/03/2002 05:00 Offtopic - Snowboard Chicken Fight? [Re: loren]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
Snowboarding holding chickens and flailing away at each other?
Training chickens to snowboard?

The mind boggles...but please video the battle and post here
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#76451 - 06/03/2002 14:48 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: anonymous_coward]
sirmanson
journeyman

Registered: 06/03/2002
Posts: 70
Loc: Tucson, AZ USA
You're not the only one. I am having this problem as well. I have verified that my player believes it is in the car and that HiJack has the proper settings. Any more ideas?
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#76452 - 06/03/2002 15:38 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: tms13]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
>Restore Visuals has never worked for me in the car

It was broken for about 15-20 releases (the early 200's) until somebody told me about it. Works fine now in the latest releases.

-ml

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#76453 - 06/03/2002 18:20 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: mlord]
charcoalgray99
enthusiast

Registered: 14/05/2001
Posts: 279
Works fine now in the latest releases.

Are you sure? v232 isn't working again. It was working about 4-5 days ago, and I stay pretty current with the releases.

I have show visual names checked, restore dc/car visuals enabled and restore visuals (v2beta11) enabled.

Tom

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#76454 - 07/03/2002 07:53 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: charcoalgray99]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
>Are you sure? v232 isn't working again.

100% positive. Works flawlessly here.

How about some more information?

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#76455 - 07/03/2002 08:37 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: mlord]
sirmanson
journeyman

Registered: 06/03/2002
Posts: 70
Loc: Tucson, AZ USA
What kind of info would be useful to you? Mine is doing it as well.
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#76456 - 07/03/2002 09:18 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: sirmanson]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Well, if I had enough information to set my player up exactly the same as your player, then in theory the "bug" should happen here as well. Then I would be able to observe it in more detail, and figure out why it happens that way.

So.. assume I just received a shiney new player. What settings must I effect to reproduce the problem? What power supply, in car, or in home? Exactly which visual? Which info mode? Exactly what sequence of actions/operations must be performed (eg. push a certain button, wait xx seconds, unplug the AC-adaptor, wait xx seconds, plug it back in, and observe xxxxxx..).

Come on guys.. I might be a kernel guru, but my clairvoyance powers are limited here.

-ml


Edited by mlord (07/03/2002 09:18)

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#76457 - 07/03/2002 20:25 Re: Restore Visuals, 2.0b11, Hijack v221 [Re: mlord]
charcoalgray99
enthusiast

Registered: 14/05/2001
Posts: 279
Sorry, I thought it would be obvious since it was broken just a few releases earlier.

Nothing to report now, v233 is working for me. No config.ini or hijack settings have been changed either.

Tom

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