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#73447 - 20/02/2002 12:27 Persistant Wendy Filters?
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I didn't see this in the FAQ, but I have a "Music Only" filter that filters out Seasonal Music, sound effects, test tones, etc. But, after using it, the next time I get in the car, the filter is turned off and playback resumes at the wrong song...

Is there any way to make the filter stay on between power ups?
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#73448 - 20/02/2002 13:55 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
I'm pretty sure Wendy filters are supposed to get remembered across power pulls. If yours are not, this might be a new bug. Can anyone verify this problem?

Also, just in case it's a problem with reading the filters from config.ini, is it possibly this bug?
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#73449 - 20/02/2002 14:24 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Tony, if it is a bug, it is not a random one. It happens every single time. I have never fooled around with my config.ini file (but who knows what I did during my last hard disk upgrade! ). I have my null-modem serial cable here and will check it out.
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#73450 - 20/02/2002 14:42 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Just look at the config.ini in Emplode and see if the favorites section is huge or not.
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#73451 - 20/02/2002 15:37 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
My favorites section is empty... never used it yet. Is there anything I can do to help isolate this? Should I do another install of beta 11?
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#73452 - 20/02/2002 15:40 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
No, that was just a wild guess. It could very well just be a bug in the beta. Does anyone from empeg know if this is true?
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#73453 - 21/02/2002 03:08 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: tfabris]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
i havent tested it with wendy filters.. try downgrading to b3 which is more stable than b7 and see if the same problem is there
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#73454 - 21/02/2002 14:26 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: justinlarsen]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
On a side note, why does installing b11 again remove my IP settings, Wendy Filters and everything... I could understand most things getting erased, but I thought the Wendy Filter info was store in the FID?
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#73455 - 21/02/2002 14:58 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Upgrading to beta 11 should not remove those things. Only a corrupted or too-big-because-of-the-favorites-bug "config.ini" file will cause those things to disappear. Check your config.ini file for corruption again.
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#73456 - 21/02/2002 15:17 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Tony, I don't see how to "check" it other than just replace it via that FAQ link you posted. Should I do that and see if it goes away?
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#73457 - 21/02/2002 17:26 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Is there a way I can check the size of the config.ini or otherwise check it out without deleting it first?
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#73458 - 21/02/2002 17:44 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tanstaafl.
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Is there a way I can check the size of the config.ini or otherwise check it out without deleting it first?

Yes.

You have to be set up to be able to edit the config.ini file through emplode. If you are not set up to do this, you need to look here in the RioCar FAQ to see how to set that up.

Then, all you have to do is go into emplode/tools/edit config.ini, it will pop it up on the screen and you can look at it, edit it, do whatever you like. I recommend copying it to your clipboard and then saving it as a text file somewhere just to have a known-good backup copy.

If your config.ini is suffering from the "corrupted first line" problem, I think your emplode config.ini editor won't work, and you'll have to delete the config.ini file.

tanstaafl.
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#73459 - 21/02/2002 21:06 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: tanstaafl.]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Oh boy. As per emplode, here is my config.ini file:

; ??? ÿû 

I've never played with any visuals or anything.. must be a bad drive upgrade or something? hmm...
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#73460 - 21/02/2002 23:11 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Update: My config.ini file was wack, but after fixing it (and I confirmed twice that it was fine), the player is STILL not remembering to apply the Wendy Filter after a power cycle.

Here is how it is working:

1. Say I suffle the root. The player will be playing on track 10 of 9266.
2. I apply the "Music Only" filter, and after a short pause, the player continues with the same song, but this time at track 10 of 8931. (This is normal).
3. While the track is 1/2 way through, I power down the player.
4. Upon booting, the player is now 1/2 through on track 10 of 9266! But track 10 is a different song!
5. Before my config.ini fix, it would usually start at 0:00 AND the wrong song (usually a track or two earlier in the playlist than it was supposed to be at).

Also, on AC power, the player is always defaulting to the last non-full screen info mode even if the "Track" mode was manually selected prior to powering down. I think someone else has brought this one up... so it is most likely a known bug.
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#73461 - 22/02/2002 11:58 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Should I contact support or post this in the Bug Reports forum?
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#73462 - 24/02/2002 15:25 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: tfabris]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
I can verify this bug. I looked at my config and it seems to be ok. Every single time I boot the thing up, Wendy filters are off. I also have a music only filter, and a lot of times I don't realize it is off until the empeg queues up a song effect, or worse.

Calvin

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#73463 - 24/02/2002 19:10 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: eternalsun]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Calvin,

Thank you! I was logging on to the internet for several days now looking for a reply and even posted in the "Bug Reports" with no word...

The worst is when the "Police Car and Chase" sound effect kicked in while I was driving!

So is this a bug, or is this how filters are built to work.

Brad
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#73464 - 25/02/2002 10:30 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Is this in the bug list? Is it a bug?
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#73465 - 25/02/2002 10:40 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yes, it has been added to the bug list.
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#73466 - 25/02/2002 13:01 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
yeah no kidding. I've had gunshots and cannon ball impacts explode in the middle of a nice piano solo. :-D ouch!!!!

I have a collection of "nature sounds" that go on for hours, and a collection of commercials from the mid century in there as well. It's kind of amusing when a commercial from the 1950's kicks off in the middle of a playlist, but the sound effects.., etc. Doesn't work.

Calvin

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#73467 - 25/02/2002 13:05 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: eternalsun]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I never thought any one would ADD commercials to an mp3 player! isn't one of the reasons to get an mp3 player to get RID of commercials? hehe I'm kidding of course, becuase that sounds really cool!

check out this site for odd sound bites: http://www.earthstation1.com/
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#73468 - 25/02/2002 13:21 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
All I can say is they had some very addictive jingles back then!

Calvin

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#73469 - 26/02/2002 03:43 Re: Persistant Wendy Filters? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tms13
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
For some fun jingles, try The Who Sell Out. (It took ages to rip correctly, as my CD doesn't separate the jingles from the songs with their own index marks, so I spent a lot of time splitting them in the waveform editor...)
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