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#56203 - 07/01/2002 20:09 Clone players over ethernet?
ClownBurner
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Registered: 05/09/2000
Posts: 174
Loc: Irvine, CA USA
Can this be done? The clone tool looks USB-only but I'm never sure if the clever lads at Empeg UK have hidden a registry key or something.

Couldn't find it in the FAQ. Thanks in advance.
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#56204 - 07/01/2002 20:13 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: ClownBurner]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
The clone tool is currently USB-only. I'm hacking on it this week, so I'll see if I can get it to clone any player to any other player.
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#56205 - 07/01/2002 20:22 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: Roger]
ClownBurner
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Registered: 05/09/2000
Posts: 174
Loc: Irvine, CA USA
Bloody heck.. I can't get my PC to recognize both players on USB with the clone tool...

Emplode sees them both, and I can connect to either, but only the last one I connected to with Emplode shows up in Clone Tool, the other shows "Found unit (0) on" and won't enable clone.

Could this be a 2.0b7 bug? Do I have to downgrade them both and try again?

Update: I found a thread on the bug board reporting the same behaviour from 2.0b7, so I'm downgrading to 1.03 to do the clone.


Edited by ClownBurner (07/01/2002 20:42)
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#56206 - 07/01/2002 20:26 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: ClownBurner]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Could be a 2.0b7 bug -- I had the same problem myself today. I'll look into it.
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#56207 - 08/01/2002 11:04 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: Roger]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Has anyone tried copying the FID's as if doing a drive upgrade? I know this involves more manual work, but seems like a good option.
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#56208 - 08/01/2002 11:52 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Has anyone tried copying the FID's as if doing a drive upgrade?

Sortof... I had a MkI with 10+18GB, then I bought a MkIIa with a 10GB disk + a separate 30GB disk.

At the end I had 30+18GB with all the music that originally was in the MkI in the MkIIa and 10+10GB empty in the MkI (as it was destined for my mothers car).

I first removed the 10G disk from the MkIIa and installed and initiated the 30G disk in it instead. Then I (one after the other) mounted the disks from the MkI as the slave disk in the MkIIa and copied all fids from /drive1 to /drive0. Wiped and initiated the 10 and 18G disks from the MkI, installed the 18G in the MkIIa and the two 10G in the MkI. Synced to rebuild the database and everything worked.

But disk to disk copying in the empeg isn't very fast either... left the 18G disk copying overnight and then started the 10G in the morning and left it 'til sometime in the afternoon.

/Michael
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#56209 - 10/01/2002 13:38 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I am waiting for IDE cable for my 60G, which works intermitently. I tried JEmplode cloning, but it worked rather slow (about a minute for a ~5M tune over Ethernet) and would stop with an error after several songs. When I get and replace the cable, I will try with JEmplode again, or perhaps with the official clone tool if it gets re-released by then.

There is always ftp as a fall-back position. I am too lazy to install ftp server on empeg, so I plan to use Mark's kftpd (I haven't checked in programming section in last two days to see whether it is ready).

I certainly don't plan to shuffle drives around in order to do direct copy.
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#56210 - 10/01/2002 17:45 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: bonzi]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
a minute for 5M? Good lord ... Currently, I read the entire file from one Empeg, then write it to the other. I really should be streaming it -- I suspect you would get significant performance improvements with that. I'll look into it...

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#56211 - 10/01/2002 21:31 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: bonzi]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
kftpd is "ready" in v116.

I also highly recommend using "mirrordir" from Linux for the copy, using a desktop box as the intermediate point (or compile and run mirrordir on the Empeg..).

Clone two players, each running Hijack and each with filesystems built and mounted "rw":

mirrordir -v ftp://player1/ ftp://player2/

-ml

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#56212 - 11/01/2002 00:09 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: mlord]
number6
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Registered: 30/04/2001
Posts: 745
Loc: In The Village or sometimes: A...
any chance we could get a copy of Mirrordir compiled for the empeg [ARM platform], so that us folks who don't run Linux all the time can ftp a copy of mirrordir to our empegs, then log into that empeg and do the mirrordir from empeg1 to empeg2 via the shell on the serial port?

Or is this asking for too much trouble to configure and use?


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#56213 - 11/01/2002 09:30 Re: Clone players over ethernet? [Re: number6]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Mirrordir requires a number of libraries and things, all of which can be built for the Empeg (I've got it running fine on my Netwinder SA110 firewall/server). But I'm not the userland application guy, in case you didn't notice .

Cheers

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