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#5432 - 11/04/2000 05:57 Mini Install pictures
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
You can see pictures of my installation in my Mini at:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~schofiel/install.html

- bear in mind the car is somewhat bent now!

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#5433 - 14/04/2000 19:50 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: schofiel]
Lord Bleys
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Registered: 30/12/1999
Posts: 143
Man, what a car that was... *sigh*

-- Bleys

"If you would judge, understand." -- Seneca
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#5434 - 27/04/2000 08:50 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: schofiel]
Reggie
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Registered: 24/06/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Chile
Please don't take it bad, but.. how's that car's internal noise? I mean, I've got a friend who owes one and I think it's terribly noisy. Being a car-fi freak, I'm always concerned with interior noise levels, and I've taken real pains to make my Golf IV silent (love hatchbacks...). So please don't take it bad but I think it's a waste of money to install a fine machine like an empeg in a car so inadecuate. It deserves at least a newer designed car, and with a good sound work, like some 100 pounds of dynamat or so.

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#5435 - 27/04/2000 09:02 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: Reggie]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I've taken real pains to make my Golf IV silent

I drove a GTI 16v for 12 years, and it was awfully noisy, and got worse as time went by. So what did you do? Strip it down and dynamat the whole thing? I had been thinking about doing that but never got around to it. How expensive/difficult was that to do? How long did it take you? What else did you do?

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#5436 - 27/04/2000 16:52 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: Reggie]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
We have empegs in vehicles which I can guarantee will be noisier than Rob's mini. For example big bad Ferraris, Imprezas and Skylines; bashed up old trucks; and at least one prop plane!

A lot of empeg owners aren't into top end audio quality - they chose the product for it's music capacity and database features.

Rob



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#5437 - 27/04/2000 21:02 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: tfabris]
Reggie
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Registered: 24/06/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Chile
Well if you drove it for 12 years it's a Golf II... a terrible car for today's standards. But the Golf III was a huge jump over that design. Vastly better engineered and light years away in terms of sound, even those built in Puebla... and well the Golf IV again is a major improvement. Im my humble opinion, it's the most refined hatchback ever built, with perhaps an exception of its Audi A3 cousin. About my Golf IV, yes I stripped it down totally, put Scosche Accumat AMT-250 on floor panels, filled the gaps with silicone, put Scosche Accumat AMT-045 on all four doors and rear panels and AMT-750 on the engine bay. Plus some work with the firewall(Yes. more accumat and silicone. A thicker carpet, too), also changed the Continental tyres for quieter Dunlops and now I can tell that my Blau Las Vegas sounds marvelous. Well, those two graphite 10 in. subs and overdrive components front and rear, all powered with two Blau MPA680us... yes I'm a Blau believer. And it all sounds glorious, from Berlioz to Korn. Fits my needs. Love to travel to some beach town in cloudy weekends, The longer the track the better. My free Din slot craves for a MK.2

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#5438 - 28/04/2000 08:04 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: Reggie]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Well if you drove it for 12 years it's a Golf II... a terrible car for today's standards.

I don't know which ones were II/III/IV etc., but I know mine was one of the last ones to come off of the U.S. assembly line in Westmoreland, Pennsylvania before they closed it down in 1988 and moved the operation to Mexico.

It was a decent car for the first ten years of its life, but most of its components were designed to start giving out after that. In the last two years, I had more problems than I could stand, so I traded it in on an Accord last month.

Interior-noise-wise, its biggest problem was that the various plastic bits were mostly clipped on instead of screwed on. As many times as it had been ripped off and I had worked on the stereo, the clips were all mostly broken or worn out. The thing became a rolling squeak-bucket.

I also had a problem where the vapor barriers in the doors got old and the seals came loose. So when it rained, I got water coming in under the door upholstery and onto the floor pan. I kept trying to repair those vapor barriers, but you'd be surprised how hard it is to seal them completely. So I kept having to dry out the carpets and eventually just removed all the padding on the floor pans, which contributed to the road noise.

Still, the thing was darn quick with the factory 16v engine (I didn't do any performance tweaks). I regularly did over 100mph on the freeway, and I was able to pass anyone even on uphill grades. Very nimble little car. Had a tendency to snap into oversteer unpredictably if you pushed it past the limit, but otherwise quite agile. When I traded it in on the Honda, I officially gave up that kind of driving. I guess it means I'm getting old. I'll miss it.

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#5439 - 28/04/2000 12:57 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: tfabris]
Reggie
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Registered: 24/06/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Chile
Let me see... your must have been like this one... am I right?
Then it's a Golf II

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#5440 - 28/04/2000 13:42 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: Reggie]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I can't ever get the file attachment feature of this BBS to work right for me- it looks like you have the same trouble. Sorry, I couldn't see the photo.

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#5441 - 28/04/2000 15:22 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: tfabris]
electricdreamer
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Registered: 26/04/2000
Posts: 6
The pictures work for me... loks like the problem is at your end!


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#5442 - 28/04/2000 15:24 Re: Mini Install pictures [Re: electricdreamer]
electricdreamer
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Registered: 26/04/2000
Posts: 6
I would like to retract that posting. I'm going to bed.


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