Hi, Im waiting for my EMPEG MKII to arrive, in the mean time im figuring out how to install it.....however I have run into a few issues/questions which concern me. Currently I have the Pioneer DEH-P9050 head unit, this unit accepts a Auxillary connection to it, however not directly, I need another unit which connects to it's IP-BUS (CD CHANGER BUS), the unit is a CD-RB20 Pioneer RCA to IP-BUS Interconnector, this i have now bought.
It has a Single pair of RCA terminals and a IP BUS connector, which connects to the head unit. My problem is the RCA OUTPUTS on the EMPEG are 4V, BUT the instructions for the RCA to IPBUS connector says NOT to connect any device which has an RCA Output level of more than 1V!!!. So what do I do?, this is the ideal way I want to connect it, it then lets me use all the features of my head unit, i.e. Amplifiys the signal (45W x 4) , Output levels to all speakers, Graphic Equalizer control, DSP, Tuner, CD etc.

Now I noticed in the EMPEG documentation that their is a pair of RCA jack on the rear of the player for connection to a home player and these are rated at 1V, this is ideal for my setup it would then allow me to use the EMPEG with the RAC to IPBUS connector with my head unit.
However once the EMPEG is in it's car dock, can I still use that pair of 1V RCA Jacks? if not what is a solution that I can use it?
OR is there another way I can use the two pairs of RCA? Hack the car dock's wiring?
or Reduce the 4V load to 1V, but how?, I'd also need to mix the two pairs of RCA from the EMPEG since the RCA to IP BUS interconnector has only ONE pair of RCA input jacks.

I WILL appreciate ALL the help I can get on this issue, post here, I can also be conntacted by EMAIL = jaidev@ihug.co.nz

Cheers, and thanks a lot...
Jaidev

Hi Jai,

Firstly, if you really want to use your existing head unit as an amplifier for the empeg, then you only need to use on pair of outputs from the empeg. The other pair will remain unused and the fader on the empeg then has no function - this is no problem 'cause you are obviously intending to use the fader on your existing head unit.

But realistically, the easiest way to solve all your problems is to get rid of your existing head unit. The empeg has a DSP based audio section with a very powerful 20 band parametric equalliser (10 band per channel in 2 channel mode, or 5 band per channel in 4 channel mode). I picked up a half way reasonable 100W 4 channel amp for around NZ$100, so that isn't a big problem either. The only thing you are going to lose is your CD player, but that is no loss either :-) (well if you buy an empeg tuner module that is, which I would recommend - is very cool!)

Anyway, congratulations on your decision to go the whole hog and buy a MkII

Derek

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There is no problem connecting the empeg's 4v outputs into your head unit's 1V inputs. Just do it, it's fine.

This is covered in the FAQ section of this BBS, it has its own separate entry on the subject. You might want to read through those FAQs, especially the Installation one.

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Tony Fabris

Hi, thanks for Derek's and Your help, I read through some of the FAQ's but didn't find the "installation" one, can u give me the url to it?

Also I searched Yahoo groups and someone there, suggested that the outputs on the back of the player is a single pair of RCA rated at 1V, so he opened up the EMPEG and (I think)feed wires from those outputs from the board to the ISO connetor, or the other way around.??...wasn't very clear.
Besides voiding your warranty what disadvantages are there to doing this?, and can it be done?

Cheers,
Jai

Don't open up the player and do any soldering inside. It's not necessary, the outputs and inputs you've got should work perfectly as-is.

The FAQ is more than one page long. You probably didn't see the one on installation because you didn't hit the next page link at the bottom of the screen. Here is a direct link to it.

While you're waiting to get the Empeg installed, you should be working on cleaning up your MP3 collection:

http://empeg.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=faq&Number=9918&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

http://empeg.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=faq&Number=9948&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

http://empeg.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=faq&Number=11847&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

http://empeg.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=faq&Number=32663&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

http://empeg.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=faq&Number=33862&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&part=

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Tony Fabris

ok thanks for the info..., I've sorted my MP3s
I was searching around to see what devices would be able to step down/convert the 4V output, im wondering whether the following would be Ideal
http://marketplace.xtra.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/1619340215/Product/View/A7303
OR
http://filemaker.webfactory.com.au/DFX/jaycar/FMPro?-db=products.fp3&-format=detail.htm&-lay=cgi&Category=CAR%20SOUND&-recid=32886&-token=12597204&-find=

cheers,
Jai

Hey Jai, everyone has already told you you don't need to do anything with the empegs output voltage! Don't you listen????

The empeg will only output 4V if you turn the volume right up. If you leave the empeg volume turned down a bit (you are going to be using your other head units volume as the mail volume control anyway aren't you) then you aren't going to have any problems! Actually I think someone even had a software hack that disabled the volume control on the empeg! You are going to have to search a bit to find that message on the BBS though ...

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Also, the units you gave links too aren't correct for your situation either - the outputs on the empeg ARE line level outputs - these boxes are for when your head unit has an internal amplifier and you want to feed it into an external amp.

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ok cheers, I'll try what has been suggested, thanks for all the help.
I found the message for the volume hack..
http://empeg.comms.net/php/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=hackers_prog&Number=22782&page=&view=&sb=&o=
So setting it to 90 gives 100% volume (4V), so Idealy I should set it to below 50..

btw, thats the only lineout converters I can find, I guess there is no aftermarket product to do that sort of thing.

Cheers,
Jai

Try it and see first. Many head units with an advertised 1V line input cope perfectly well with far higher levels of signal.

Rob

I picked up a half way reasonable 100W 4 channel amp for around NZ$100

Where?

At MediaMarkt here in Germany. Is a Magnat unit. I still have the factory speakers in my Nissan Primera, and no sub so I don't need a monster amp. Is externally about the same size as the empeg and is plenty loud enough - I usually run it with the gains turned right down even!

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Oh, you mentioned NZ$, i thought you meant you got it in New Zealand.

Sorry, I was just making it easy for Jai. I am a Kiwi, I'm just living over here at the moment. 1DM is roughly the same as $1NZ so it was a pretty easy conversion to make

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