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#360680 - 30/12/2013 14:28 Help assembling some electronics/programming?
CrackersMcCheese
pooh-bah

Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
I'm looking for some help to build a clock. Details not set in stone but utilising these:

www.adafruit.com/products/1268) and;
www.adafruit.com/products/255)

I'll be putting it in a custom aluminium case which I can make, but have no idea how to join the bits and write the alarm software.

Anyone able to help or can recommend someone? Yes, I know I could probably learn, but my time is full of babies and DIY at the moment so time is precious!

Thanks in advance.

P

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#360681 - 30/12/2013 15:12 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
K447
old hand

Registered: 29/05/2002
Posts: 798
Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
What is the reason for not using a commercial/manufactured clock?

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#360686 - 30/12/2013 20:26 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: K447]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Two main reasons:

1. The exact functionality isn't in a product I've seen

2. I want something unique and not made from cheap plastic; gives things a bit more soul.

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#360687 - 30/12/2013 23:42 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
K447
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Registered: 29/05/2002
Posts: 798
Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Do you care about battery backup or any functionality while not plugged into wall power?

What specific functionality do you want to achieve, if I may ask?

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#360692 - 31/12/2013 10:27 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: K447]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
A display that can dim to off.

The alarm must sound even if the mains cuts. Not fussed about the display but the alarm needs to go off.

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#360693 - 31/12/2013 14:42 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
K447
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Registered: 29/05/2002
Posts: 798
Loc: near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Phil.
A display that can dim to off.

The alarm must sound even if the mains cuts. Not fussed about the display but the alarm needs to go off.
A smartphone (does not need to be active on a mobile network) or even an iPod Touch with a clock/alarm app could do those things.

I have been using the Rise app on my iPhone. Nicely done.

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#360732 - 06/01/2014 22:04 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: K447]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31601
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: K447
A smartphone (does not need to be active on a mobile network) or even an iPod Touch with a clock/alarm app could do those things.


I think that when it comes to reliability, a smartphone isn't a good fit for an alarm clock. I've seen the following problems with using smartphones as alarm clocks. These are all from personal experience, or the experience of a loved one:

- Lack of a big, physical, easy-to-hit button to snooze the alarm. Most of the smartphones I've seen require that you be able to focus your eyes on the touch screen and either touch the correct spot on the screen, or perform some kind of a particular swipe manuever. If you're in bed with someone else who's not familiar with it, and they're the first ones to grab the phone, they might be unable to snooze it, or they might do the wrong thing and shut down the alarm instead of snoozing it.

- Failure of the app to reliably function properly. My girlfriend swears by a particular Android app which has multiple levels of increasing alarm strength. She loves it very much. Then there was the day when she was a few hours late to work because it didn't go off. The phone was connected to power, and there was no indication on the phone screen that anything had gone wrong, but the alarm simply hadn't gone off. My guess is that, when the time came for the alarm to go off, the app crashed for some reason. When she re-ran the app, everything looked fine.

- Smartphones are just not loud enough. Once I nearly missed a plane because I was sleeping in a dorm in a second-floor room. It was at a sci-fi convention in Spokane, WA during the summer. We were the guests of honor at this con, and the con used a college campus for its events that year; the concom had put us up in an unoccupied dorm room. It was hot, and I was sleeping with the windows open, with my smartphone next to the bed. I awoke with the concom people pounding on the door; we had overslept by hours and it was time for them to take us to the airport. My phone alarm? It was going off full blast but I hadn't heard it. Why? During the night, with the window open, the road work crew had set up one of those big yellow generator-powered road signs. The sound of the running generator outside the window was enough to drown out the phone, and my sleeping brain had gotten used to the generator noise.

There's also the issue that some people really treat their alarm clocks badly (smacking them pretty hard to snooze them, for example), and I think smartphones are fairly fragile.
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Tony Fabris

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#360735 - 07/01/2014 00:12 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: tfabris]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
The only alarm clocks I've used in the past 10 years or so have been my former PalmOne Zire 72, and more recently my Android GN. Both are so vastly superior to anything before them that I've not had need to look elsewhere.

Being able to easily input multiple events far in advance, and super accurate time-of-day win out for me. Reliability has been 100% thus far.

Cheers

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#360740 - 07/01/2014 12:54 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: mlord]
Phoenix42
veteran

Registered: 21/03/2002
Posts: 1424
Loc: MA but Irish born
For the past 6 years I've used the alarm clock in my avatar, and the next revision of it. Neither has a snooze button frown

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#360749 - 09/01/2014 18:43 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: Phoenix42]
CrackersMcCheese
pooh-bah

Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
I have one of those too; but only for 14 months. Loving his Scottish treat of a Lee's Snowball.


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#360751 - 10/01/2014 10:45 Re: Help assembling some electronics/programming? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
larry818
old hand

Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
Here's my alarm, she could probably help you with your project.


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