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#338699 - 27/10/2010 12:32 Joshua Tree CD
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I was listening to the empeg on shuffle this morning and it chose to play U2's "Exit" off of The Joshua Tree. I knew it before, but it's more prominent when shuffled: whoever mastered the CD put the break between "One Tree Hill" and "Exit" in the wrong place so that you get "One Tree Hill"'s coda as an intro to "Exit" instead.

Does anyone have a newer version of the CD (I probably got mine in '87 or '88)? If so, is the break point fixed?
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#338701 - 27/10/2010 12:43 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: wfaulk]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
On a related subject, the UK pressing of Joshua Tree appears to be unrippable. My original copy was unrippable, put it down to cd rot (it is one of my few visibly decayed discs).

I bought another copy, that failed to rip in the same places. Bought another copy, same result.

That was with EAC and dbPowerAmp across three machines/drives. In the end I was forced to "steal" a good rip from somewhere.
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#338703 - 27/10/2010 12:48 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: andy]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Forgot to say, the rip that I acquired has the break in the right place.
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#338708 - 27/10/2010 14:15 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: andy]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
My rip doesn't have that problem, but I can't tell you when I purchased the CD, though it would have been more than 15 years ago, that's for sure. It might be original pressing and it might not. I can tell you however that it's a Canadian pressing.
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#338712 - 27/10/2010 15:51 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: wfaulk]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Sounds like a few minutes in Audacity would fix what you've got on hand.

*shrug*
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#338716 - 27/10/2010 18:45 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: Robotic]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Oh, no doubt. I've been meaning to do it; I'm just too lazy.

I was mostly just curious.
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#338773 - 29/10/2010 15:16 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Cue sheet issues (where an incorrect CD track designator mark would be induced) are common in CD mastering. It's possible that one pressing of the CD has the error in the cue sheet and another pressing does not. This probably was either induced or corrected at some point during the album's history when it got remastered for some reason.

The first CD player I ever bought, I had to have Moving Pictures for it of course. And the first CD pressing of Moving Pictures also had a cue sheet error. The opening 1000 milliseconds of "Tom Sawyer" was cut off. I sent a letter to the record company (this was in the days before ubiquitous email) and they corrected it fairly shortly thereafter, and I got a new disc.

This caused an unexpected bit of trouble recently, my friend Jeff Bohnhoff recorded a parody album which included a Tom Sawyer parody. His reference material was an uncorrected copy of the same first-release CD, so when he sent me an early mix of the song to review (I'm his rush SME it seems!) I had to point out he didn't have the the drum hits on the opening downbeat correct. He fixed it. :-)
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#338795 - 29/10/2010 22:08 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: tfabris]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
1000ms = 1s sick
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#338822 - 30/10/2010 19:34 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: gbeer]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
I was trying to get past the English language awkwardness of saying "First Second" because of the dual meaning of the word Second.
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#338826 - 30/10/2010 20:02 Re: Joshua Tree CD [Re: tfabris]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
"The first one second."

---- "Oh yeah buddy? Up yours, the second one first!"

"That's what I said dumb-ass".

I think that's how the war in Iraq was started...
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