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#322969 - 03/06/2009 23:30 Re: broken handle [Re: Robotic]
larry818
old hand

Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
Originally Posted By: Robotic
aka Pot Metal.
It's a bit tricky to weld.


Yeah, I didn't think that pot metal would be a term used on the other side of the pond.

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#322973 - 04/06/2009 10:23 Re: broken handle [Re: Robotic]
Rezolution
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 260
I believe it's commonly referred to as "White Metal". It's very porous.

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#322974 - 04/06/2009 10:30 Re: broken handle [Re: Rezolution]
Rezolution
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 260
I'm kind of scared to put a torch on it as it will probably ruin whatever finish is on it. I was thinkin of drilling into the side of it and putting a flush mount self tapping screw into it. Then I could color the end of the screw with a black marker. They break in the metal is invisible if you push the two peices together hard enough so maybe a screw would hold the two pieces together. If it fits flush, it won't interfere with my dasbhoard.

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#322975 - 04/06/2009 10:48 Re: broken handle [Re: Rezolution]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
That's what we tried here. But the thread tap broke off in the hole..

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#322979 - 04/06/2009 12:12 Re: broken handle [Re: mlord]
Rezolution
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 260
I wasn't going to tap it out, I was just going to make the hole large enough and use a self tapping screw. A very tiny one smile

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#322981 - 04/06/2009 12:49 Re: broken handle [Re: Rezolution]
Rezolution
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 260
Well, after calls to 11 machinists, the 12th said he would be happy to "take a look at it and try and help me out". Hopefully he'll be able to help me out smile

All of the other guys either won't touch white metal or don't do work for residential folks.

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#322982 - 04/06/2009 12:53 Re: broken handle [Re: Rezolution]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
My other idea, which I may someday try on the broken handle I have here, is to slot the ends of the two pieces, and rivet a small spline into them, bridging the break. This will work, and will be very solid. Just takes a bit of effort.

Cheers

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#322984 - 04/06/2009 13:47 Re: broken handle [Re: mlord]
Rezolution
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 260
I was thinking of taking a cutoff wheel on a dremel tool and putting three small grooves/slots into the back of the handle where it's broken, then back filling it and smoothing it over with some type of super-expoxy (like JB Weld). That might work too but I'm going to try the machinist first...

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#322990 - 04/06/2009 20:38 Re: broken handle [Re: Rezolution]
tanstaafl.
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
I repaired SWMBO's broken handle.

The repair was crude, and the final results were not especially pretty, but it worked.

I used a small drill bit (probably a 5/64" or thereabouts) and drilled about a half-inch deep hole into each jagged broken end of the handle. Then I broke a 1" piece off the fluted end of the drill bit and inserted it with a generous dollop of JB Weld into each of the holes I had drilled, applied more JB Weld to the outside of the handle around the break, and held the handle tight together while the epoxy set.

This repair has lasted for more than a year with no problems.

tanstaafl.
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#323179 - 11/06/2009 00:37 Re: broken handle [Re: tanstaafl.]
FireFox31
pooh-bah

Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
I'll be forced to make replacement handles sooner or later. My empeg is sticking in its sled, so every time I remove it, the handle is at risk of breaking. It's only a matter of time before necessity drives me to making these.

Think I could get a bargain on extrusion and machining because of the down economy?
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#323184 - 11/06/2009 03:25 Re: broken handle [Re: FireFox31]
matthew_k
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
Have you checked the screws of your docking connector? I've had to take my dash apart to pop my empeg out when one screw came loose.

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#323217 - 11/06/2009 16:13 Re: broken handle [Re: FireFox31]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Sticking in the sled is a bad thing and should be fixed right away.

As was said, make sure your docking connector screws are tight.

If it's the little "bumps" on the sides of the sled making rough gouges in the sides of the player, I was able to solve that problem by pulling out the player, and from the inside of the sled outward, whapping the bumps with a hammer to bend them out a bit and make them push on the player less.
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#323300 - 13/06/2009 22:37 Re: broken handle [Re: FireFox31]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Quote:
Think I could get a bargain on extrusion and machining because of the down economy?


They look like cast aluminum to me. Of course the threads would most likely still need to be tapped in some fashion.

Stu
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#323517 - 19/06/2009 21:07 Re: broken handle [Re: tfabris]
FireFox31
pooh-bah

Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
It's the bumps on the sled. They can't flex outward because the car's dash pocket has walls which cover them. My dash is currently apart (and has been for months) as I intend to cut holes for the tabs to bend into.

However, one of my empegs fits in the sled easily while another doesn't. I've never figured that out, but oh well.
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#323555 - 22/06/2009 00:33 Re: broken handle [Re: FireFox31]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: FireFox31
They can't flex outward because the car's dash pocket has walls which cover them.


Mine too, but banging on them real hard with a hammer (while the whole sled was fully mounted) solved the problem anyway.
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#323606 - 23/06/2009 10:45 Re: broken handle [Re: tfabris]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: tfabris
Mine too, but banging on them real hard with a hammer (while the whole sled was fully mounted) solved the problem anyway.


The dash pocket is probably relatively soft plastic. The clue's in the word "soft". Just hit it until it complies.
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#323634 - 23/06/2009 23:15 Re: broken handle [Re: tfabris]
FireFox31
pooh-bah

Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
As the Car Talk guys say, what CAN'T be solved with a hammer?
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#323664 - 24/06/2009 15:02 Re: broken handle [Re: FireFox31]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: FireFox31
As the Car Talk guys say, what CAN'T be solved with a hammer?


Those problems which can only be solved with a chainsaw.

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