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#322107 - 08/05/2009 13:23 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: DWallach]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
Originally Posted By: DWallach
For those of you who've said "get over it and get a cheaper fridge", that's certainly still on the table, but the space in our kitchen that was designed to "insert fridge here" was clearly sized for one of these 48" wide models. Anything else looks funny.

My Gram built a narrow, tall set of shelves on wheels. The unit was as wide as her fridge was deep and was meant to sit alongside the fridge next to a wall in a nook afforded by the 'too-small-fridge or oversized-nook' problem.
Put a handle on one end and presto- instant pantry space!
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#322110 - 08/05/2009 15:25 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: ]
siberia37
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Registered: 09/01/2002
Posts: 702
Loc: Tacoma,WA
Ice makers are a bad idea anyways. My sister had one and the water suppy line broke and flooded their basement while they were away. Don't think that can't happen with a $11,000 fridge either- it's just a general plumbing risk.

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#322111 - 08/05/2009 16:18 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: siberia37]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
The more pipes you have, the more pipes are available to fail. That includes a water line for a fridge.

That said, a properly installed line using quality materials is not going to break. Ever. Period. Regardless of whether it's for an ice maker, drinking water, water filtration, instant water heater, whatever. Risk factor of the line itself should be no more than any other plumbing pipe already in the house. In fact it may even be better (you can't inspect what's already in your walls and floors.

Ok, you may want to replace the line if you've installed it 20 years ago. But owning a home means inspecting things like that once in a while.

As far as the fridge itself springing a leak... Well, that's a different story entirely, but again, not significantly more problem prone than any other plumbed fixture. If your fridge is a lemon you're probably going to find out right away.
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#322124 - 08/05/2009 19:06 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: hybrid8]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: hybrid8
As far as the fridge itself springing a leak... Well, that's a different story entirely

The special consideration of a water connection to a fridge, is that this is a moveable appliance. So the water line will be made of some kind of flexible material, and will be subject to more stress than other fixures in the house (because fridges get pushed into place, and pulled out for cleaning etc..).

So it depends a lot upon the materials used, and the quality of workmanship of the minimum-wage contractor who installs it.

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#322126 - 08/05/2009 19:35 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
And if you're really concerned about it, you could always install a ...

Well, dammit. I can't think of what to call them now, and a Google fails me, but they make these passive valves that detect when the flow of water is high, indicating a burst pipe, and automatically shut off the incoming water. I can't remember the exact specifics, but it's something like a spring-loaded cork that when the flow is low, stays out of the hole, but when the pressure goes up, the pressure pushes it into the hole and holds it there. Seems like it was even more passive than a spring, though.
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#322127 - 08/05/2009 21:00 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: wfaulk]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
It's called a "flow fuse".

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#322131 - 08/05/2009 22:41 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: DWallach]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: DWallach
"List" on a 48" wide Sub-Zero fridge/freezer with stainless doors and an ice-maker/water-dispenser is a staggering $11,500 or thereabouts. The best price I've managed to get quoted, and I probably shouldn't say how so nobody gets in trouble, is still $9700.

SWMBO asked me to point out that we tore our entire kitchen down to bare studs/joists, moved a wall, rebuilt/rewired the entire kitchen, built/installed all new cabinets and countertops, all new appliances, added a new (second) sink area.. all for less than the cost of that one fridge.

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#322134 - 09/05/2009 01:19 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: larry818]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Originally Posted By: larry818
It's called a "flow fuse".

Looks like that's the term used in industrial applications like hydraulics. Not that it couldn't be used for more residential applications.

But the product I was thinking of was the Flood Safe. Though in finding it, I did come across a number of reports of nasty failures.
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#322137 - 09/05/2009 03:12 Re: Insane prices on high-end kitchen crap [Re: wfaulk]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
Posts: 1039
Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
My house is loaded with industrial parts. Thankfully, my wife thinks the stainless steel ball valves in the shower look nice. smile

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