#311430 - 17/06/2008 20:47
My 250Gb drive woes
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Well, I thought the solution to my problems was to do away with my old drives and install one 250Gb Western Digital. So, went through the process, double checking cables etc and all seemed fine.
builder_bigdisk_v10.upgrade went on, did its pumping and got to the stage that the waiting message kept repeating on the serial port. All good so far.
Did the car_2.01_hijack_v9.upgrade, and it appeared to work fine as well. Pump completed and it eventually rebooted to 'End of Playlist'
The problem is that when I connect using emplode or jemplode I get zero free space.
A ctrl-C lets me move around the usual filesystem.
Any thoughts on what might be wrong, or what further info it would be useful for me to provide?
[update - emplode gets upset now, but I can still connect using jemplode, however I get a 'there isn't a file with FIDS 2 on this device' message. Trying to Sync anyway tells me there is an issue and fsck should be run, so I'm off to do that now!]
Edited by frog51 (17/06/2008 20:58)
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#311432 - 17/06/2008 21:03
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: frog51]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Hmmmm - more info:
interestingly it may well be the old IDE issue or something else -
No primary hard disk
No secondary hard disk
more checks for me to do then
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#311433 - 17/06/2008 21:08
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: frog51]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Starting to wonder about the IDE data test results - maybe I'll borrow the IDE cable from my backup to cross check this one... empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!
e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v488 (hijack@rtr.ca) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #96 Thu Apr 10 14:50:24 EDT 2008
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
Checking for extra DRAM:
c1000000: wrote ffffffff, read e28cc001
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40103382) 16MB DRAM
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15000k/16M available (992k code, 20k reserved, 368k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Found custom animation at offset 0x9978c
Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1
show_message("Hijack v488+ by Mark Lord")
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005e80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0000
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0000
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0000
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0000
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0001
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0001
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0001
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0001
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0001
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0001
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: WDC WD2500BEVE-00WZT0, 238475MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=30401/255/63, LBA48
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:0d:36
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump... show_message("pump hda5 128:2")
show_message("pump hda5 130:2")
show_message("pump hda5 136:2")
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
show_message("pump hda5 648:2")
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
No primary hard disk
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into developmeStarting player
Timezone: GMT
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004
Vcb: 0x4086d000
show_message("Happy Birthday Schofiel!")
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#311434 - 17/06/2008 21:30
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: frog51]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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There's nothing wrong with that log you posted -- it identifies the drive just fine. The data test messages ARE ONLY MEANINGFUL WHEN SOMETHING ELSE FAILS DURING THE KERNEL INIT, which was not the case here.
Ross Wellington has a *massive* thread on this BBS about his 250GB drive adventures, and how he worked around various software limitations with them. Recommended reading.
A ReserveCache=nn line is almost certainly required to get them to work correctly with the player software.
-ml
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#311435 - 17/06/2008 21:35
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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yep - I went through that entire thread and the info you popped on there made me think this should just work. At risk of sounding thick, is there a way to write the reservecache into config.ini without using emplode/jemplode - as I can't get a sync to work. [edit - This thread has info on that] fsck won't work either as ro and umount can't find any devices to work with. I really appreciate any thoughts here....
Edited by frog51 (17/06/2008 21:37)
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#311436 - 17/06/2008 21:40
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
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pooh-bah
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Another update - swapped the hard drive onto the last connector. Rebuilding, and this time I get the Writing inode tables message on the serial port. Don't recall seeing that last time, so this is a step up. And the 29789 number sounds like the same as Ross, so I'm cautiously optimistic...
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#311437 - 17/06/2008 22:09
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
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pooh-bah
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Looking grand - popping a quick 40Gb on overnight to see what happens.
Wonder if the old drives were okay the whole time. Ah well - the new one was cheap and it should do for a while.
Thanks Mark -I have gone with a reservecache of 10. Didn't seem to be any hard and fast rules on this.
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#311441 - 18/06/2008 00:32
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: frog51]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
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Mmmm.. I do hope you're having fun on the leading edge of things here! Someday I might grab a 250GB drive and try it, but for now mine are all much smaller and of late tend to have no spinning magnetized thingies.  Cheers
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#311450 - 18/06/2008 04:22
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
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I think if I was just running them in the car I would be tempted by the solid state side of things, however I have this nice dock sat right next to my desk at home, so I might as well have all my music beside me :-)
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#311451 - 18/06/2008 04:30
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: mlord]
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Registered: 21/02/2006
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Hi,
The 250 GB Drives have worked very well for me. I have used 2 of them per player. I am currently making a master set that I will copy between my empegs.
I am loading the last 50GB of my 415GB music list on it this weekend. This will leave me an additional 50GB (465GB is the total you get with 2 250 GB drives after and player software formatting) for future music.
The reason why it has taken me a long time to report back is that I re-formatted my complete collection and have have bits and pieces of time to complete the effort.
One way around the memory error that I had early on in the player was to remove content in the Tags. The way I did this was to use Tag and Rename, select the files, right click, and Edit Tags In Selected Files (second selection down), click on Select All, Clear All, and Save. This removes all tag information.
I think this helped some and I either had to lose more cache or remove cache content. I chose the latter, maybe this is not how it works at all, but, it did seem to solve my problem even after using the reservecache in config.ini (the mem err still happened occasionally), I haven't seen it since, maybe just coincidence....
I know, I know, I lose the search capabilities as well as other goodies, but, what it all comes down to is listening to what I like which is arranged in a tiered format anyway. It is much better tha listening to FM. The majority of the files are native .wav files.
The tiering I selected looks like this:
Rock Music
- Classic Rock
- Classic Rock - A - E
CR - A
ABBA
Gold
01 - Dancing Queen ABBA Gold
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Average White Band
CR - B
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CR - E
- Classic Rock - F - J
- Classic Rock - K - O
- Classic Rock - P - T
- Classic Rock - U - Z
- Classic Rock - 1 - 9
- Hard Rock
- Oldies Rock
- Soft Rock
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File names look like this:
01 - Dancing Queen ABBA Gold
Lots of sorted directories, you get the idea.
When the player sees no Tag information, it reverts back to the file name which has the Track #, Title, Artist, and Album name. Which is all I really want anyway.
I also have a ReserveCache=15 in my config.ini too which helps reserve the space for the copy of the playlist it loads.
So far, I have not had a problem with over 32,000 Files.
I wonder what it will do with a 750 GB drive interfaced to it... Hmmm? Yeah, I bought one to try it with, I don't know what will happen with it. Next project, for a home unit, maybe, time permitting.
Ross
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#311452 - 18/06/2008 09:58
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22 There is no filesystem on the music partition: the mkfs in the builder image must have failed for some reason. Peter
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#311455 - 18/06/2008 12:40
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
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pooh-bah
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Yeah - in going through the different messages each time (or different lengths of time each message came up) I think I must have a dodgy middle connector on the cable. Shouldn't be a problem - this 250Gb drive should do me for years (unless PaulWay and SXSW become even more prolific:-)
Cheers
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#311456 - 18/06/2008 14:46
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
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pooh-bah
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Well - it'll be slow but it all looks good. Halfway through the As (500 songs worked fine) so I'll finish the As and the pop B to E on in one batch.
As long as it all completes in time for the Cambridge trip I'm happy
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#311463 - 18/06/2008 23:13
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: frog51]
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Registered: 21/02/2006
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Hi,
I have loaded large GB sessions before. Over 10 hours straight without powering down the drive. Not recommended for drive reliability but, it will do it. I prefer 10 to 20GB sessions to allow everything to cool in between sessions.
With Ethernet interface, it will load around 2.5GB/hour hours. USB, well now, that's just real slow. Believe me, I loaded my 120GB drives with that and Ethernet is MUCH FASTER.
If you think about it, that is pretty good reliability for the Empeg and host system to sustain the 2.5GB/hour transfer. The host has a Seagate 750GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 drive with a SATA to IDE adapter and still sustains the transfer without errors.
Good Luck,
Ross
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#311464 - 19/06/2008 07:11
Re: My 250Gb drive woes
[Re: Ross Wellington]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
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With Ethernet interface, it will load around 2.5GB/hour hours. USB, well now, that's just real slow. Believe me, I loaded my 120GB drives with that and Ethernet is MUCH FASTER. Ethernet has a lower overhead on the empeg. If you think about it, that is pretty good reliability for the Empeg and host system to sustain the 2.5GB/hour transfer. The host has a Seagate 750GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 drive with a SATA to IDE adapter and still sustains the transfer without errors. ??? 2.5GB/hour isn't fast at all. If your PC couldn't sustain that then there is something severely wrong with it. The laptop HD in the empeg will vastly exceed that itself.
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