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#29708 - 19/04/2001 11:36 Clone Tool?
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
what is it for? I noticed it with emplode....

32GB (JUST UPGRADED!) Mk. II BLUE
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#29709 - 19/04/2001 11:42 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
The clone tool copies the entire contents of a Mark1 to a new Mark2 via USB. It is hard-coded to only go Mark1->Mark2, if I recall correctly. I'm pretty sure it was only intended to be used by owners of Mark1s that upgraded to Mark2s.

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#29710 - 19/04/2001 11:47 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: tfabris]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
that is very impressive and i don't even have a Mk1


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#29711 - 19/04/2001 12:02 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: thinfourth2]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Can it do a Mark 2 -> Mark 2? If so, can the data stream be redirected to make a proprietary backup?

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#29712 - 19/04/2001 13:11 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: pgrzelak]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Can it do a Mark 2 -> Mark 2?

Like I said, I believe it's hard coded for Mark1->Mark2 only.

I'm sure that if the Empeg folks ever wrote a proprietary backup utility, it would use a similar protocol, but there isn't a backup utility at this time.

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#29713 - 19/04/2001 13:52 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: pgrzelak]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Can it do a Mark 2 -> Mark 2? If so, can the data stream be redirected to make a proprietary backup?

At present, it cannot. It was a purpose-built tool with limited properties. But you bring up a good point -- it looks like the groundwork for a backup utility within emplode might already be there.

To reiterate my number one empeg wishlist desire: A simple, crude, brute-force backup utility built into emplode that will mirror my entire empeg (including database) to my PC's hard drive. The backup file can be a single, big, compressed, encoded, encrypted file that cannot be viewed, edited, played, or used for anything in the whole world, except to be mirrored back to the same empeg (serial number check?) that wrote it. I think that under these circumstances empeg's concerns about enabling piracy might be alleviated.

If the tool were not part of emplode, then a stand-alone utility that would run in Windows would suffice. I would be very willing to pay for such a utility.

tanstaafl.



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#29714 - 21/04/2001 02:31 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: tanstaafl.]
fvgestel
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Registered: 12/08/2000
Posts: 702
Loc: Netherlands
I've spent an evening fooling around on windows and came up with a nice windows backup-utility.
It requires displayserver running on the empeg.
It takes the CSV-dump from emplode as input and will save all MP3's in one directory. Files are stored as on the empeg.
This way you can select which files to backup by editing the CSV file.
Anyway, download it from http://empeg.dyndns.org/empeg/displayserver1.1/empbackup.zip and give it a try.
Note: No checks are made if the CSV file is valid or the destination directory exists, so make sure everything is filled in correctly

Frank van Gestel
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#29715 - 21/04/2001 05:48 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: fvgestel]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
I've spent an evening fooling around on windows and came up with a nice windows backup-utility.

geweldig, frank !
dank





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#29716 - 21/04/2001 16:35 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: Henno]
fvgestel
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Registered: 12/08/2000
Posts: 702
Loc: Netherlands
I've just created a new version; the new one also saves the meta-data (*1 files) and shows the transfer-speeds.

Frank van Gestel
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#29717 - 22/04/2001 01:46 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: fvgestel]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Is it just me or does anyone else think that Frank might know something about computers

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#29718 - 22/04/2001 06:00 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: thinfourth2]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
given that he's an "enthusiast", I'd hazzard a guess he might!

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#29719 - 22/04/2001 08:00 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: muzza]
fvgestel
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Registered: 12/08/2000
Posts: 702
Loc: Netherlands
two more posts and I'll be an addict


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#29720 - 22/04/2001 14:21 Re: Clone Tool? [Re: thinfourth2]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Yup, you got that right - that's why Philips pays him so much.

Go on, I can do that - Gizza Job!

P.S. Why don't you come over to the Amersfoort bash, have a good time, and meet him yourself? A seriously nice bloke. Hi Frank!

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