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#295894 - 26/03/2007 18:44 Sled Instructions
Supratachophobia
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Registered: 23/04/2002
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I just purchased a sled here from another member and I was wondering if there are any instructions for putting this thing together.

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#295895 - 26/03/2007 19:04 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: Supratachophobia]
tfabris
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We can help you with the pinouts. And there is some video of a docking connector being repaired. Does that help?
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#295896 - 26/03/2007 19:23 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: tfabris]
Supratachophobia
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Now THAT was helpful. I guess my other questions are, I assume you have to solder before you stick the pins into the connector? And If I don't plan on having a serial or tuner, I don't need those pinouts? Finally, where does the 2nd connector go into the black connector. In other words, how do the dimmer/phone mute connector connect into the black connector that the Empeg hooks up to? Confusing? Join the club. My other sled can't be accessed right now to look how it is put together.

Thanks guys. Great response time Tony.


Edited by Supratachophobia (26/03/2007 19:29)

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#295897 - 26/03/2007 19:32 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: Supratachophobia]
cushman
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I assume you have to solder before you stick the pins into the connector?

They are crimp connectors, but a bit of solder wouldn't hurt unless it makes the pin too big to fit into the hole. I soldered all of mine.

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And If I don't plan on having a serial or tuner, I don't need those pinouts?

Nope, I removed mine from my stock sled before installing it in my car to save room on the install.
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#295898 - 26/03/2007 19:35 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: Supratachophobia]
tfabris
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There is a special crimping tool for those docking connector pins. If you do not have that special crimping tool, then you should probably solder the connections. Even when the crimping tool was used, they sometimes slipped out of the pins (see the "video" link I gave above), so I'd say, yeah, do the soldering.

I highly recommend soldering up all the connections, even the ones you're not using, in case you want to sell the sled to someone else down the road. Might as well get it out of the way while you've got everything set up to do the work.
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#295899 - 26/03/2007 20:21 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
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highly recommend soldering up all the connections, even the ones you're not using, in case you want to sell the sled to someone else down the road. Might as well get it out of the way while you've got everything set up to do the work.


Yeah just be careful not to use too much heat or the insulation will shrink away from the strain relief in the connectors and shorten the life of your wiring.

Stu
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#295900 - 26/03/2007 21:19 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: maczrool]
Supratachophobia
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Thanks guys, excellent help. I edited my post so I dont know if you saw my last question. The connector that has the dimmer/phone mute, where do those wires go in the pinout you pointed me to?

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#295901 - 26/03/2007 21:34 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: Supratachophobia]
tfabris
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They are shared pins with the serial port. Make sure to follow ALL the links and sub-links from above, it looks like you missed the sub-link from the pinouts FAQ to the one picture that gives great detail with exact wiring lines for dimmer and phone mute.
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#295902 - 26/03/2007 21:45 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: tfabris]
Supratachophobia
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And for clarification...

Can I bypass the ISO connector all together and basically do this:

Pin10: Dimmer
Pin11: Phone Mute
Pin02: Amp Remote

What size wire do you guys recommend to do this? And I have 18-24g pins, and 24-28g pins; which should I be using for what.

Thanks.

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#295903 - 26/03/2007 21:57 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: Supratachophobia]
tfabris
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Yes, it is possible to bypass the ISO connector altogether. I haven't confirmed the pin numbers with your email, but assuming you got them from the diagram, it should be good.

I don't recommend doing this, as it makes life hard if you ever want to resell the sled or add features later.

The larger pins go for the larger holes on the dock, the ones for constant power and ground. If you look at the diagram you can see which ones are the big ones.

You should use the same gauge of wire as you would find in most standard car stereo installations. Nothing special. I don't know what gauge that is, but I remember the wire thicknesses on my sleds being the same as you would find on other car stereo installations. Go a little thicker on the ground wire and constant power wire just to be on the safe side.
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#295904 - 26/03/2007 23:18 Re: Sled Instructions [Re: tfabris]
Supratachophobia
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Cool, that just about sums up all my questions, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again everyone.

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