#280658 - 25/04/2006 19:48
Need Help with Upgrade Please
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journeyman
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I am attempting to upgrade my Riomk2a with a new HDD. When I use the MK2 Builder I get the message" couldn't find pump" ox20 and when I run hyperterm it just loops "forever hold their peace" over and over. So what am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance!
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#280659 - 26/04/2006 00:17
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Mostly likely causes are disk drive (or cable or IDE header) trouble, or problems with the serial cable or serial port.
Just in case, triple-check and make absolutely sure you're following the instructions in the disk upgrade guide TO THE LETTER.
Perhaps post here exactly what you're doing, right down to the keystrokes and mouse clicks, and then report exactly what you see on the screen.
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#280660 - 26/04/2006 07:15
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: tfabris]
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Sounds like an "off by one" cable plugging issue, or the drive is not jumpered as Master. Also, the builder is only really useful on drives under 40G.
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#280661 - 05/05/2006 18:06
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: tfabris]
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To follow up on what I posted earlier the hdd is a 100 gb Seagate and I have Triple checked everything and have followed the disk upgrade to the T. I have went and installed V2.01-final developer version because I saw someone else had the same problem as me and that worked for them however it hasn't for me and this is the message I get with hyperterm when I try and run Emplode
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4). Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22 Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted) Remounting first music partition read-only No primary hard disk Remounting second music partition read-only No secondary hard disk Press 'q' now to go into development mStarting player player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06. ! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002). Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004 Vcb: 0x4086d000
Edited by Gallagher419 (05/05/2006 18:08)
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#280662 - 05/05/2006 19:44
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Question: did you build the drive first? Also, there is a bug with the builder utility where it can fail to build the music partition but gives no indication. You might want to try rebuilding.
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#280663 - 05/05/2006 19:53
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Yes Paul I did build the drive first and I have tried rebuilding at least six times now so perhaps it is the builder and not me. I have had success in the past building this drive but I needed to use it as extra storage and now I am ready to put it back in the Empeg and now this. Oh well maybe I'll just keep trying and get lucky maybe I won't, we shall see. Thanks for the reply Paul.
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#280664 - 05/05/2006 20:59
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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hdd is a 100 gb Seagate
Builder is known to have problems sometimes with hard drives >60 GB. Could this be the root of the trouble?
tanstaafl.
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#280665 - 06/05/2006 01:34
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: tanstaafl.]
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journeyman
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Quote:
hdd is a 100 gb Seagate
Builder is known to have problems sometimes with hard drives >60 GB. Could this be the root of the trouble?
tanstaafl.
Well I have my doubts about the 100 GB Seagate being the cause because I just tried to format a 40 GB Seagate and I get the same pump error. I do believe that the ".upgrade" file is corrupted and if that's the case how do I upgrade the disk?
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#280666 - 06/05/2006 10:10
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Greetings!
Please rebuild the drive using the builder routine. But I want you to reupload the builder firmware to the player. Immediately after the upload completes and the player starts to reboot, yank the power from the empeg. Rig your computer to do a hyperterm capture and plug the empeg back in. Capture the build session boot. Please note, you will likely be prompted to hit "enter" to continue the boot process if there is anything already on the drive. Note any errors and post the capture here. Once the build completes and you go into the disk check, reboot the player and post the boot log here as well.
Thanks!
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#280667 - 06/05/2006 14:08
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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thans for the reply Paul. I have tried rebuiling the drive as per your instructions and I have noticed that after an attemped rebuild and getting the "couldn't get pump error" the player just sits there looking dead and doesn't reboot itself. I have however pulled the plug immediately after getting the message ran hyperterminal plugged in the player and this is the message I get:
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace... empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com ) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace... empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com ) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace... empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com ) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them s
This message just loops like this over and over again. Hope this helps you out.
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#280668 - 06/05/2006 14:11
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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journeyman
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I don't know if this tidbit of info will help but I do have a working 20 GB HDD. I don't know if there is anyway to take what's on the 20GB and put it on the 40GB to make it work?
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#280669 - 06/05/2006 14:36
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Hmmm... That usually means the kernel is bad. Can you download a fresh copy of 2.0 developer, attempt to load that and see what happens. Once that kernel is loaded (the .upload file, please), we can work with the 20 to build the 100 manually.
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#280670 - 06/05/2006 15:07
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Ok I now have 2.0 developer on the unit and it boots up as normal and here is what hyperterminal says: e000 v1.04 Copying kernel... Calling linux kernel... Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne l. Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp. empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102798) Command line: mem=16m Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4 Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k) Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384) IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli) Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 ) ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 ) Starting kswapd v 1.5 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART Signature is 67706d65 'empg' Scheduling custom logo. empeg display initialised. empeg dsp audio initialised empeg dsp mixer initialised empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a empeg remote control/panel button initialised. empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012 empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004c80). empeg RDS driver initialised empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot) RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size empeg single channel IDE Probing primary interface... hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive hda: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive hda: ST9100823A, ATA ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 hda: ST9100823A, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63 empeg-flash driver initialized smc chip id/revision 0x3349 smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:0a:e e Partition check: hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done. EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4). Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22 Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted) Remounting first music partition read-only No primary hard disk Remounting second music partition read-only No secondary hard disk Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To ComplůStarti ng player player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01. ! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002). Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003 Vcb: 0x4086d000
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#280671 - 06/05/2006 16:38
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Ah. Good. You are able to get into the player, and have enough of developer to work with. The easiest approach is to install a known good bootable drive in as the master drive, reconfigure (add a jumper) to the new 100GB drive to make it a slave drive, boot with both in place. You should (after possible errors) get to where you can get to a command prompt. From there, you should be able to follow the directions for a manual partition and format.
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#280672 - 06/05/2006 17:42
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Well Paul I have done everything correctly and according to hyperterminal everything went fine but when I run Emplode the 100 GB doesn't show up at all. Any ideas? Heres a hyperterm capture after the manual partition and format:
empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com) empeg dsp audio initialisedRemounti If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,g dsp initialisedn empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A rev or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!l/panel button initialised.order 4, 64k)Penguins of
e000 v1.04itialised, Copying kernel...eceived SIGINT, u Calling linux kernel... (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003 1024 empeg single channel Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11interface...on table hd NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.mpeg hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive Scheduli ide empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102798) o hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/ Command line: mem=16m empeg dsp Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/6 Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4sh driver initialized Starting kswapd v 1.5 /sbin/f SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabledev/hda4 Command action ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UARTlesystem on dev ide0(3,4). ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UARTsettingsed Remounting fi ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART smc chip id No primary hard diskast c Signature is 67706d65 'empg'cond music partition read-on Scheduling custom logo.Stahlman (erik@vt.edu N empeg display initialised. Restart c empeg dsp audio initialised Starting player empeg dsp mixer initialised : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003 empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision aed to op
e000 v1.04 Copying kernel... empeg single channel IDEinux kernel...default va Probing primary interface...inux........................ hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, ATA DISK drive l logical (5 or ove hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drivep pr l.ry Linux version 2.2.1 ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6c version 2.95.3 20010315ype `n' hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63 l hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4 hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done. EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 Mounting second music partition Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply... Starting player player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06. Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004 Vcb: 0x4086d000
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#280673 - 06/05/2006 17:45
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
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Are you looking for this drive: hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive ??
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#280674 - 06/05/2006 18:03
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: mlord]
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I think it may be partially there, just obscured by the hyperterm capture. There is a "hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drivep pr" in that boot, as Mark saw.
Can you capture another boot log? Use the capture to a file feature instead of selecting / cut&paste. The results are much clearer. If, as I think, you have both drives recognized, it should just be a matter of manually partitioning and formatting the 100GB drive.
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#280675 - 06/05/2006 20:48
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
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Both drives are already there, and already partitioned, as seen in the boot log.
-ml
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#280676 - 07/05/2006 01:38
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: mlord]
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journeyman
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Quote: Both drives are already there, and already partitioned, as seen in the boot log.
-ml
I did not think it worked because when I ran emplode after the partition it still only showed a 20 gb hdd perhaps it's a mistake on emplodes part. Thanks Paul and thanks Mark I greatly appreciate it!
Edited by robricc (07/05/2006 01:50)
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#280677 - 07/05/2006 10:08
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
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Mmm.. that would mean the music partition has not been "formatted" -- or rather, nobody has successfully run mke2fs on it yet.
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#280678 - 07/05/2006 10:24
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
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It does sound like it was partitioned, but not formatted. Did you follow the directions on both links in that posting? They went to different procedures.
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#280679 - 07/05/2006 22:03
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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journeyman
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Yes Paul I followed everything like it said too and it looked in hyperterminal exactly as it did in the links you posted.
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#280680 - 08/05/2006 08:15
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
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But when you reboot, it only shows one drive??? That is extremely strange. Can you take a look at this FAQ entry for setting up (and more specifically capturing text with) hyperterm? I would like to get a capture of a clean boot log. Thanks.
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#280681 - 08/05/2006 10:02
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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journeyman
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Ok the above attachement has the hyperterminal text captured.
Attachments
281213-hyper.TXT (137 downloads)
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#280682 - 08/05/2006 10:07
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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This looks completely correct. The player both found the 100GB drive and mounted the second music partition correctly. What kind of errors are you seeing??? Quote: hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, ATA DISK drive hdb: ST9100823A, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 hda: PhatNoise DMS 20GB, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63 hdb: ST9100823A, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63 ... Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 (this is okay) Mounting second music partition Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only
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#280683 - 08/05/2006 10:14
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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journeyman
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I do not see any errors at all but when I run emplode it only see's the 20 gb hdd.
Edited by Gallagher419 (08/05/2006 10:14)
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#280684 - 08/05/2006 10:18
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Please exit to shell, and let me know what the following does. I suspect that you may have partitioned and formatted the music file system on the 100GB, but not added the directory structure...
q (get to shell) ls /drive0 ls /drive1
Meanwhile, what is your prefered end configuration? Do you want to have this player with a 20GB master and 100GB slave? Do you want to transfer everything from the 20 to the 100? Do you want to have the 100 alone as a boot drive? This will determine how / if you need to copy audio and configuration files, and if you need to move drives around and apply a .upgrade file...
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#280685 - 08/05/2006 10:23
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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I was going to try and keep the 20gb as the master and the 100 as a slave but at this point it doesn't matter I would just like to get the 100gb working and I did try and apply an upgrade file after the partiton and format to the 100gb and run it alone but it hung up in Emplode. So I would say at this point Paul whatever is the eaisest thing to do is fine!
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#280686 - 08/05/2006 10:25
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Quote: Please exit to shell, and let me know what the following does. I suspect that you may have partitioned and formatted the music file system on the 100GB, but not added the directory structure...
q (get to shell) ls /drive0 ls /drive1
Meanwhile, what is your prefered end configuration? Do you want to have this player with a 20GB master and 100GB slave? Do you want to transfer everything from the 20 to the 100? Do you want to have the 100 alone as a boot drive? This will determine how / if you need to copy audio and configuration files, and if you need to move drives around and apply a .upgrade file...
Now I have entered q and Is /drive0 Is /drive1 and this is what hyperterminal says: q Restored terminal settings Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only Player exited normally: 0 Switching to shell-player loop Starting bash. empeg:/empeg/bin# ls /drive0 fids lost+found var empeg:/empeg/bin# ls /drive1 lost+found empeg:/empeg/bin#
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#280687 - 08/05/2006 10:26
Re: Need Help with Upgrade Please
[Re: Gallagher419]
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carpal tunnel
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Well, easiest is to keep the 20 as master and 100 as slave, given this is the way it is already wired / jumpered / configured.
Any results from that "ls /drive1"? I suspect that the directory structure that the player relies on (/driveX/fids) is not there on the 100...
EDIT: Ah. I see you posted while I was replying. Yup. That is the problem. Do this:
rw ; rwm mkdir /drive1/fids rom ; ro reboot empeg test.
Edited by pgrzelak (08/05/2006 10:27)
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