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#276313 - 22/02/2006 11:29 Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11
jbrinkerhoff member Registered: 02/04/2002 Posts: 148	I'm getting ready to install the empeg back into my new car, and its been running 3.00a7 for a while. No real problems except the occasional hard lockup, and seemingly when I tweak order with more than one button press (i.e. I wanna add 3 more songs by same artist) it will freeze. (If I take it slow, it doesnt generally freeze). My question is, Im now going to be using a tuner as well. It seems to work fine with 3.0a7 (in my house anyway), does 3.0a11 break anything? Which would be the better choice? (Oh, and with a7 my playlists seem to not sort alphabetically anymore also). I've read the readme's etc, anyone have any advice or warnings? Thanks-Jeff _________________________ Empeg Mk2a 60G
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#276314 - 22/02/2006 12:28 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: jbrinkerhoff]
Shonky pooh-bah Registered: 12/01/2002 Posts: 2009 Loc: Brisbane, Australia	Using mine in a similar situation. I have run 3.00a11 since it came out. 1) The tweak order stuff works better, but is still not perfect. Mine tends to lock up more than crash (reboot via Hijack) 2) I find I quite often get player software crashes in tuner mode. It seems I get more so when the tuner is "paused" i.e. muted. IMO 3.00a11 is the way to go if you're willing to put up with the odd crash here and there. Peter (I think) got quite a few last minute fixes in just before a11 came out. Here _________________________ Christian #40104192 120Gb (no longer in my E36 M3, won't fit the E46 M3)
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#276315 - 22/02/2006 14:30 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: jbrinkerhoff]
AndrewT old hand Registered: 16/02/2002 Posts: 867 Loc: Oxford, UK	There are a few tuner related fixes in 3.0a11 that may be of benefit to you: 1) Left/right tuning on the front buttons now works. 2) RDS/AF can now be turned off. 3) Some of the AF switching parameters are exposed in config.ini With 3.0a11 I get the occasional segfault that in turn causes a reboot. I've only noticed this in tuner mode myself and it only happens about once a week.
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#276316 - 22/02/2006 16:12 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: AndrewT]
alex25 member Registered: 30/06/1999 Posts: 179 Loc: Switzerland	In Antwort auf: With 3.0a11 I get the occasional segfault that in turn causes a reboot. I've only noticed this in tuner mode myself and it only happens about once a week. I get a segfault about every 10 minutes. I think I depends on the station you are listening to (RDS data problem?)
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#276317 - 23/02/2006 13:12 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: Shonky]
hybrid8 carpal tunnel Registered: 12/11/2001 Posts: 7738 Loc: Toronto, CANADA	I wish I could run my player on the bleeding edge again. But I don't have the time to fiddle with restarting it and definitely lack the patience. I wonder how much wishing it will take to get a beta-stable build of 3.x at some point in the future. I can only imagine the sweet crossfading action I'm missing... Bruno _________________________ Bruno Twisted Melon : Fine Mac OS Software
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#276318 - 24/02/2006 06:39 Re: Differences between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: hybrid8]
frog51 pooh-bah Registered: 09/08/2000 Posts: 2091 Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland	I like my empegs to 'just work' but I find running 3A11 on them is very stable. I do get about 1 segfault a week, but Hijack sorts that beautifully and just reboots for me. I can make segfaults happen by trying to do too many things when it is buffering or otherwise busy, but those situations are simple to avoid. Along with the 3A11 goodies, I wouldn't need so much stability that 2Final would be necessary. _________________________ Rory MkIIa, blue lit buttons, memory upgrade, 1Tb in Subaru Forester STi MkII, 240Gb in Mark Lord dock MkII, 80Gb SSD in dock
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#276319 - 24/02/2006 06:46 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: alex25]
alex25 member Registered: 30/06/1999 Posts: 179 Loc: Switzerland	In Antwort auf: I get a segfault about every 10 minutes. I think I depends on the station you are listening to (RDS data problem?) An additional note: This only happens in tuner mode. Alpha11 works perfect in mp3 mode for me.
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#276320 - 24/02/2006 14:02 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: jbrinkerhoff]
Taym carpal tunnel Registered: 18/06/2001 Posts: 2504 Loc: Roma, Italy	And, don't forget that with a11 you won't have any tracks marked randomly any longer. To me, that's worthed so much! _________________________ = Taym = MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb All/Colors Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg
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#276321 - 24/02/2006 14:03 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: alex25]
hybrid8 carpal tunnel Registered: 12/11/2001 Posts: 7738 Loc: Toronto, CANADA	So you're telling me I should try v3 out then, huh? Ok, now who's going to point me to the quick and dirty thread about installing v3a11 on top of 2.0 final and perhaps additional information on how to easily go back if needed. Bruno _________________________ Bruno Twisted Melon : Fine Mac OS Software
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#276322 - 24/02/2006 14:13 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: hybrid8]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	You do both the same way you install any software update on the empeg. That is, read the manual. You'll have to reinstall Hijack afterwards if you use it. Mark also has an "upgrader" utility that will allow you to upload new software over ethernet via Hijack. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#276323 - 24/02/2006 14:54 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8 carpal tunnel Registered: 12/11/2001 Posts: 7738 Loc: Toronto, CANADA	I meant in case of a list of caveats and upgrade issues, not how to perform a flash... But interestingly enough, I'd never used Upgrader before. I'm writing this as I'm trying to upgrade... Going from version 2.0 final, using HiJack 413. First thing I did was to just try the .MacOS binary that was part of the download, which just gave me the following error: Error, size mismatch: 1974877952 vs 0 So searching the forum I read someone else had to recompile to overcome a similar error using Cygwin. Recompile done and I notice the version of Upgarder is now 9 instead of 2. So we try again with new binary... Player was paused before starting. Quote: Placing player into Standy-By for the upgrade: ncftpput -E -c -Y "site button=top.L" "192.168.8.88" "/dev/null" </dev/null Could not accept a data connection: Operation timed out. Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out. Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out. INFO This release is suitable for Mark II empeg and Rio Car players (with rotary control) WHAT empegcar developer image 2005/07/25 18:54 RELEASE Rio Car player software - developer release v3.00-alpha11 VERSION Rio Car player software - developer release v3.00-alpha11 LOADER /proc/flash_0c000, size=452 bytes --> SKIPPED LOADER /proc/flash_0e000, size=1692 bytes --> SKIPPED KERNEL /proc/empeg_kernel, size=476784 bytes --> SKIPPED RAMDISK /proc/flash_b0000, size=327680 bytes --> pumping: ncftpput -E -c "192.168.8.88" "/proc/flash_b0000" Could not accept a data connection: Operation timed out. Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out. Broken pipe And finally done... Can anyone offer some advice? Edited by hybrid8 (24/02/2006 16:05)
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#276324 - 24/02/2006 16:14 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: hybrid8]
mlord carpal tunnel Registered: 29/08/2000 Posts: 14496 Loc: Canada	Quote: --> pumping: ncftpput -E -c "192.168.8.88" "/proc/flash_b0000" Could not accept a data connection: Operation timed out. Could not read reply from control connection -- timed out. Broken pipe And finally done... Can anyone offer some advice? Try a normal FTP connection first, and see if that works. If not, then no wonder ncftpput also fails. Otherwise, rerun the upgrader and try again afterwards. Cheers Edited by mlord (24/02/2006 18:37)
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#276325 - 24/02/2006 16:26 Re: Differnces between 3.00a7 and 3.00a10/11 [Re: mlord]
hybrid8 carpal tunnel Registered: 12/11/2001 Posts: 7738 Loc: Toronto, CANADA	I can FTP to the player. And I can change directories with the default FTP. Using ncftp it seems to just sit there after trying to cd (to /drive0 for example). I can't seem to get a listing of what's on the emeg using command-line FTP though (no ls, no dir). I did find a thread where you suggested someone try sending hda5 up manually. Trying that I get exactly this: Quote: ftp> put _dev_hda5 hda5 local: _dev_hda5 remote: hda5 500 Bad command. 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. And right now it's just sitting there. Not sure how long it's supposed to take... Hopefully I didn't just stuff the player. Since using this Mac as my primary machine I've really let my Windows systems go downhill. I'm not even sure I have emplode installed on the current systems for example. Which also means I've got to go searching for the serial cable and make sure when I find something that it's actually the right one and not some other random cable that only LOOKS like the right one. I can still navigate the web interface while ftp hasn't returned... Do I need anything special in the config.ini? I haven't added anything in there in years and I've certainly made no mods for any of the more recent versions of hijack (again, I'm running 461) Bruno Edited by hybrid8 (24/02/2006 16:43) _________________________ Bruno Twisted Melon : Fine Mac OS Software
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