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#267694 - 21/10/2005 08:10 Problems upgrading HD
dewdman42
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Registered: 13/09/2000
Posts: 186
Well, I had some problems upgrading one of the two HD's on my MKii and just wanted to see if anyone can help me solve it. I read the guide on riocar.org completely before starting and while doing it.

I pulled out the two existing drives. Put the one new one in with the jumper OFF. Then I ran the upgrade utility to install The car2-builder image. when that was running I was supposed to wait until some crucial moment and then start up Hyperterminal..but I wasn't sure if I missed the moment or what..when I tried to start hyperterminal, it was just a blank screen. I recycled the power on the Empeg and it booted up, but it spit out a bunch of errors about not finding right filesystem, etc..and then went immediately into the stress test which has been running for the past hour. It never actually reformated the drive.

When I tried to put the developer 2.0 image back on and boot that, there are many errors in the hyperterminal screen and basically says it can't find ext2 filesystems. I have no idea what happened or what I can do to get this drive ready for use. Can anyone help? It sorta seems like the drive was never formatted. It was previous a Windows XP disc in a laptop.

-steve


Edited by dewdman42 (21/10/2005 08:12)

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#267695 - 21/10/2005 08:47 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: dewdman42]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
I am really unsure of what you are doing here. Are you adding a second disk? Or are you replacing a disk?
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#267696 - 21/10/2005 11:00 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: schofiel]
jondle
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Registered: 19/08/2005
Posts: 38
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
It sounds like you were replacing a drive. First, your jumper settings depend on your manufacturer. You need to look those up at the mauf's site. To ensure nothing happens to your old drive you are keeping in the player, I would unplug it. Make your new drive is the master drive and the only drive for now. Load the disk imager onto the empeg. When it is done loading, unplug the empeg, start hyperterminal, and plug in the empeg. It should then start formatting. I don't remember, but I think it only formats the master. I could be wrong, but I know it atleast formats the master. After it is done, you can put your other drive back in as either master or slave. Just remember you have to have one of each, not two master drives.

Edit: I also recall something about requiring interaction if the drive isn't empty.?.? That could be way off, but if you start HT before you plug in the player, you should see it.


Edited by jondle (21/10/2005 11:06)
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#267697 - 21/10/2005 15:24 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: jondle]
dewdman42
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Registered: 13/09/2000
Posts: 186
As my original post states, I am upgrading one of the drives of my 2-drive MK2. Meaning, I had before two drives. I am replacing one of them with a new bigger drive. At this point I pulled both of the original drives out of the Empeg, plugged only the new one in, with the jumper removed (since on the drive itself there is a chart showing device0 as no-jumper). Then I loaded the car2-builder image, which is supposed to be designed to format the drive. The upgrader software on my PC went through its thing...including it did that partition pump stuff (which seemed odd to me since the drive hasn't been formated yet). The drive was previously used as a WindowsXP drive and has that junk on it, maybe it confused things because of that? In any case, when the screen on my PC said it was finished, I unplugged the power to Empeg and restarted it, with hyperterminal on.

At that point it did NOT go into any format mode. It flashed a bunch of boot up ascii text up the terminal within about 10 seconds (none of which included lines abuot formatting the disk and some of which had errors reported), then went into the health check that its supposed to do after formatting. I can do it again and copy and past the text if there is someone savvy in here you might know what is going on.

I thought maybe it worked and I didn't know it. so I tried to put the normal car-developer image back and tried to boot up, with hyperterminal on (this is all exactly according to the procedures explained on riocar.org's HD upgrade page). At that point there were errors I didn't understand showing up on the hypterminal. It looked more or less like things didn't work right so now I'm in a holding pattern.

Here is the hyperterminal output I see when trying to install the car2-builder image(which is supposed to format the HD)

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empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg49 (mac@aphex.internal.empeg.com) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #130 Mon Oct 22 18:52:07 BST 2001
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000741)
Command line: mem=12m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is ffffffff 'ÿÿÿÿ'
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004400).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, ATA DISK drive
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: FUJITSU MHT2080AT PL, 76319MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:02:e5
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...
okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initVFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4).
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4,
or too many mounted file systems
warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
umount: /drive0: not mounted
Making first drive...
mke2fs 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/hda4 is mounted.
no room for private writable mapping
error: -12
/dev/hda4: Memory allocation failed while setting up superblock
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning down.
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning up.
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Speed checking /dev/hda3
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Read/write of 8Mb took 4.14 seconds
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning down.
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning up.
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning down.
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
Stressing /dev/hda: Spinning up.
hdstress.cpp 189 ( 14): Poll result=0 on fd=5
hdstress.cpp 1


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#267698 - 21/10/2005 16:39 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: dewdman42]
jondle
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Registered: 19/08/2005
Posts: 38
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Until someone that knows more than me posts, maybe this will help.?.?

That doesn't seem like the builder image. I can't remember the output of either one, but just glancing at your output. It loads the irda driver, which wouldn't be necessary on the builder image, and then tries to mount the file system. It shouldn't need to mount the file system at all until you load the player image back on. So my guess would be your upgrade utility isn't working properly.

On a side (but related) note, one thing that might help is, with the devel image installed, drop to a shell and run fdisk /dev/hda. Then erase every partition there and save it. That will make the drive apear to be empty. Then run the builder image. This will erase any doubt about the ntfs causing problems. You shouldn't have to do this, but if you are having problems it's good to try everything. If you have never used fdisk, this may be to technical and I wouldn't worry about it.
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#267699 - 21/10/2005 16:46 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: jondle]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
No. That is the builder image. The problem is that it is a 80GB drive and the empeg doesn't have sufficient memory to initialise it. You need to do it manually. The instructions are on Roger's page somewhere.

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#267700 - 21/10/2005 16:59 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: tman]
jondle
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Registered: 19/08/2005
Posts: 38
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
I'm glad someone that does know more than me posted.

Here is a direct link to the manual build of a hard drive on Roger's site.
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#267701 - 22/10/2005 06:00 Re: Problems upgrading HD [Re: jondle]
dewdman42
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Registered: 13/09/2000
Posts: 186
Thanks for that pointer. I had to create a linux boot CD in order to get it to work, but I was able to book the linux CD, configure my drive and right now the Empeg was syncronizing with more than double the space I had before. Loving it. Thanks guys. Someone really oughta put a link to these manual instructions from the riocar.org page which describes how to upgrade HD's.

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