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#265556 - 20/09/2005 15:53 End of Playlist Message
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
I recently got my car back from getting serviced. Nothing to do with the stereo system. Every time I turn off the car and start back up I get an End of Playlist message. Any ideas on how to fix this? I tend to keep my music on shuffle so this is kind of a pain to have to keep restarting the playlists everytime I get in my car.

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#265557 - 20/09/2005 16:06 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hm. It's not remembering its settings after a power off. It's possible that they blew a fuse somehow during the work. Check the fuses that go to the stereo, including both the car's fuse panel and any inline fuses behind the sled, perhaps a dash-dismantling is in your future. reference 1, reference 2, reference 3. Not sure if any of those are related, it may have nothing to do with any of that.

Another possibility is disk troubles. Try reference 4, reference 5, reference 6, and reference 7.
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#265558 - 20/09/2005 17:35 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: tfabris]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
Well its definitely a problem with my car because I dont have the problem if I hook it up out of my car. I just dont see how this problem could have just come up. The repairs to my car had nothing to do with anything electrical. This is all very complicated it looks like to get it working again propaerly.

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#265559 - 20/09/2005 18:36 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
I'd say a good place to start is the fuse on the 12 volt line (yellow) to the back of your empeg sled.
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#265560 - 20/09/2005 19:19 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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This is all very complicated it looks like to get it working again propaerly.

Not if, as we are suggesting, it's simply a blown fuse. Blown fuses are not complicated to fix. Please check the fuses on your car's fuse panel, and also the inline fuse on the yellow wire going to the empeg.

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I dont have the problem if I hook it up out of my car.

This is a good sign, it means the problem is most likely outside of the player, thus, easy to fix.

Another possibility is, have you installed any third-party software on the player that runs only in DC/Car mode?
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#265561 - 23/09/2005 00:53 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: JBjorgen]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
Well I checked the fuses in my car and all are ok and now I am having the same problem with the player indoors. I know its not the cable because I just had it replaced through Eutronix like 6 months ago. Any other ideas as to what could be causing this? Eutronix also replaced one of the drives.

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#265562 - 23/09/2005 08:35 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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now I am having the same problem with the player indoors

How many tracks are there in the running-order? If you try a small running-order -- a single album, say -- does it remember that over a power cycle?

Peter

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#265563 - 23/09/2005 09:16 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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now I am having the same problem with the player indoors.

Okay, until this point I assumed something external to the player. Now that you're saying you get the same behavior in AC and DC mode, we're into a whole different area.

My player started doing this (not saving its playlist state) when its dynamic data partition got corrupted because of disk trouble. But it also started showing hard disk errors on the screen at the same time. Tell me, do you have a recent version of Hijack installed? If not, that might be why you're not seeing the on-screen disk errors. Those would have been the dead giveaway.

Put the latest hijack on the player and tell us if you're getting on-screen disk errors when you try to select a large playlist.

If you are, try doing the full-erase of the dynamic data partition (after writing down your EQ and tuner preset details). That solved the problem for me.
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#265564 - 23/09/2005 11:18 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: peter]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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now I am having the same problem with the player indoors

How many tracks are there in the running-order? If you try a small running-order -- a single album, say -- does it remember that over a power cycle?

Peter


Good call. He could be hitting the max fid limit (which is fixable via Mark's patch).
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#265565 - 23/09/2005 12:55 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: tfabris]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
Where do I get the HiJack and Jemplode programs and how do I install them?

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#265566 - 23/09/2005 12:56 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: peter]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
It seems like it will remember smaller playlists. I have over 7000 tracks in my player.

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#265567 - 23/09/2005 13:23 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: tfabris]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
I dont have HiJack or anything installed. How can I install them if my computer has no serial port?

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#265568 - 23/09/2005 13:46 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
You'll need to borrow a friend's computer or get a USB to serial dongle. They're not too expensive. The links to both are at the top of this page.
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#265569 - 23/09/2005 14:06 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: JBjorgen]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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...The links to both are at the top of this page.

As is the link to the fantabulous Empeg FAQ!
Sounds like a good idea for you to snuggle up with it one evening- real soon.
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#265570 - 23/09/2005 21:03 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: JBjorgen]
StigOE
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Registered: 27/10/2002
Posts: 568
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... or get a USB to serial dongle.

Not every USB-to-serial dongle works with the firmware upgrade or Hijack installation. I know that the one I have doesn't...

Stig

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#265571 - 23/09/2005 21:23 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: StigOE]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
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... or get a USB to serial dongle.

Not every USB-to-serial dongle works with the firmware upgrade or Hijack installation. I know that the one I have doesn't...

Stig


They should all work with the updated download.c program on the Hijack site. I fixed some timing issues with the earlier code a while back, when working to get the BT serial dongles to work.

I don't know if anyone has updated the Windoze downloaders yet, though.

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#265572 - 23/09/2005 22:25 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: StigOE]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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... or get a USB to serial dongle.

Not every USB-to-serial dongle works with the firmware upgrade or Hijack installation. I know that the one I have doesn't...

Stig

While I can't vouch for this specific adapter, the one I use has a Prolific chipset and works fine. I have purchased from that site before and altough it looks like a scam, it's not.
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#265573 - 24/09/2005 00:24 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: robricc]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Yup, some USB-serial adaptors are a lot WORSE than others. And some, like the Prolific chipset ones, are really, REALLY, GOOD. I tested a whole whack of them recently, and only the Prolific one could keep up at > 56kb/s without hardware flow control.

Cheers

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#265574 - 27/09/2005 16:48 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
Foz
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Registered: 24/10/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: San Jose, CA
Links to both of those are at the top of the page. Scroll up, you'll see them.

-- Gary F.
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#265575 - 29/09/2005 21:38 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: Foz]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
I have the one with the prolific driver and Im trying to install hijack but i keep getting a cannot find manufacturer id message.

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#265576 - 29/09/2005 22:14 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
For troubleshooting your malfunctioning serial port, please refer to my post in your other, crossposted, thread about how you are unable to install Hijack. You need to back up a step and troubleshoot the faulty serial port connection before trying to install hijack.
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#265577 - 03/10/2005 17:53 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
What is Mark's Patch called and where can I get it?

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#265578 - 03/10/2005 18:18 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Over yonder...
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#265579 - 03/10/2005 19:02 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: pgrzelak]
faceless041974
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Registered: 11/04/2004
Posts: 44
Loc: Chicago, IL
I went there but Im unsure what Im looking for. Is it a file download? Im not very skilled when it comes to this kernal stuff.

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#265580 - 03/10/2005 19:48 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
This is the file you want. It is not a kernel - it is merely a utility to patch the player application so that it can read larger numbers of FIDs. Perhaps I have mistaken what you are looking for?

If you are still trying to get serial connectivity, this is probably not what you want. If you are trying to install hijack, then you must resolve the serial port issue first. You will need to be at a serial port console (or telneted somehow) into the empeg to run the program.


Edited by pgrzelak (03/10/2005 20:15)
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#265581 - 03/10/2005 23:15 Re: End of Playlist Message [Re: faceless041974]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
FACELESS: DO NOT DO THE MAX FID PATCH!!!

Your problem, based on your other thread about the "hda: read_intr" error, indicates you've got a completely different issue that's entirely unrelated to the max number of fids. Please see my post in your other thread on that topic.

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