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#252914 - 29/03/2005 23:56 HDD problems after new disk installed -
Clarke
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Registered: 18/08/1999
Posts: 90
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Hi,

I pulled the existing two disks (a 10gb and 18GB) out of my Mark II and replaced it with a single Hitachi 80GN unit. I did the exact same process with my Mk2a and had no problems.

Anyway, I build the Mk II with the disk builder image and ran the stress test all night. I then applied version 2.0 end-user. When I ran Emplode to put my music back, emplode crashs with an error after it restarts the player - during the initial read process. I can't get emplode to start.

So I re-image using the disk builder again - and applied the developer image so I could get to the shell prompt and poke around.

A quick examination of the boot log shows that I might have a partition or filesystem error, but my UNIX days are long behind me and I can't figure it out.

Here is the boot log:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0

e000 v1.04Jul 4 20
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
/dev
-rwxr-xr-x 1
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 97 Jul 4 2000 rwm
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 64668 Feb 6 2000 rz
audioin hda h
(release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003 47280 Feb 6 2000 sed
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 220
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 14552 Feb 6
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 60000022)

POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
-rwxr-xr-x 1
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Feb 6 2000 tary while d
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039----- 1 0 0 34380 Nov 6 1999 tune
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0find ext2 superblock, trying bac

IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP 37404 Feb 6 2000 u
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhas-blo

SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled

empeg:/bin#
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
empeg:/bin# pwin# mount
bash: pw: c
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART Killed playerroc (rw)
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART PID TTY TIME CMD an ext2 filesystem o
Signature is ffffffff 'ÿÿÿÿ'0 bash
empeg display initialised.:00 ps bad option, bad sup
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg:/# pwd
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004380). 0 1024 Jul 4 2000 deve2fs
empeg RDS driver initialised
drwxr-xr-x 2 0
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot) rwm swapoff umount
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1999 drive1halt mkdir mount rm rz swap
empeg single channel IDExr-x 4 0 0
Probing primary interface...eg
cp fsck
hda: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drivewxr-xr-x 3 0 0 1
hda: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive
empeg:/bin# fsck.ext2
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: IC25N080ATMR04-0, 76319MB w/7884kB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63c repair (no questions)
l
empeg-flash driver initialized 3 Apr 1 2003 sbin -
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu) 10 Apr 1 2003 swapfile -> ./dev/hda6

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:0c:00:1 0 1024 Apr 13 1999 tmp even if filesystem is marked clean
6
Partition check:
drwxr-xr-x 4
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4 usr Be verbose
empeg:/dri
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommendede0 not mounted already, or bad option
-L bad_blocks_fi
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg:/# ls drive0
empeg:/bi
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)sage: fdisk
empeg:/mnt# ls[
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.for the f
empeg:/sbin# ls
badblocks dd fsck.ext2 i
change_root: old root has d_count=1 sz disk)
Trying to unmount old root ... okaydev
bash df grep in
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0 or: fdisk /dev/ida
I see this is a developer image! ln mkswap ps rw
Mounting procne2fs
Mounting first music partition /dev/hda
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4054d000
q
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
No primary hard disk
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Player exited normally: 0
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# rw
empeg:/empeg/bin# rwm
mount: /drive0 not mounted already, or bad option
empeg:/empeg/bin# ro
mount: /drive0 not mounted already, or bad option
empeg:/empeg/bin# rom
mount: /drive0 not mounted already, or bad option
empeg:/empeg/bin#

For whatever reason it looks like the music partition isn't being mounted.

empeg:/empeg/bin# player &
[1] 32
empeg:/empeg/bin# player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Clarke
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#252915 - 30/03/2005 01:06 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: Clarke]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
That looks very... um .. yucky.

My guess is that the Mk2 has less RAM and the builder isn't working on it. PaulG, the "Big Drive Guy" has had trouble installing large drives in his Mk2 that I have had no problems doing in my Mk2a.

So... you can either build the drives manually (a search should pop up link on that) or, build the drive and install 2.0final developer using the Mk2a and then transfer the drive to the Mk2.

There are also some tools around here to keep the two players in sync. Or you can even use Jemplode to copy from one empeg to another.
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#252916 - 30/03/2005 09:48 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I agree about rebuilding the drive manually. There is also a bug in the builder that occasionally causes trouble.
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#252917 - 30/03/2005 10:59 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Clarke
journeyman

Registered: 18/08/1999
Posts: 90
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Ah, That would explain it then. Looks like a manual build then as the mk2a is all back together and I hate taking them apart...

Thanks for the eyeball on the problem.

Clarke
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#252918 - 30/03/2005 19:11 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: Clarke]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:0c:00:1 0 1024 Apr 13 1999 tmp even if filesystem is marked clean

That bootlog has been hopelessly mangled, probably by Hyperterminal. Could you get hold of Teraterm, or some other working comms program, and try again?

Peter

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#252919 - 30/03/2005 19:16 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: peter]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Or just do direct logging, rather than a copy-and-paste. The mangling happens in the Windows XP version of hypeterminal when you do a copy-and-paste. If you do a direct log to disk, the mangling doesn't happen.
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#252920 - 31/03/2005 02:14 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: pgrzelak]
Clarke
journeyman

Registered: 18/08/1999
Posts: 90
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Well I rw and rwm'd the empeg.

mke2fs -m0 /dev/hda4

ro
rom

reboot, quit to shell

rw
rwm
cd /drive0
mkdir fids
mkdir var
created a 0 byte config.ini in /drive0/var

ro
rom

and reboot. Less errors this time and emplode didn't die when it re-mounted the disks. Weirdly enough, there is a less space available with nothing on the player than what my Mk2a reported, 72GB vs. 75GB with the single 80GB drive but it seems to be syncronizing now.

The link to Rodgers page with the instructions for manually building the drives are broken, or his site is down. I haven't found explicit instructions for building drives anywhere, so I muddled through with what I could find.

I'll let everyone know if this syncronization works tomorrow night as I'm uploading 40MB of stuff at the moment.

Cheers,

Clarke
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#252921 - 31/03/2005 14:22 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: Clarke]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
If the partitions on the drives weren't built correctly, you'll lose all your music the next time you run an .upgrade file. So be sure the drives were built correctly before synching music.
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#252922 - 01/04/2005 02:07 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: tfabris]
Clarke
journeyman

Registered: 18/08/1999
Posts: 90
Loc: Scottsdale, AZ USA
Tony,

I've got no way of knowing how to build the drives correctly. It's not in your FAQ oh, FAQ-master! :-) (at least not that I've been able to find). A search of the BBS for mke2fs (used to format the partitions) shows a limited number of results and no specific directions. I figured out enough from what I could find to make it work, but apparently the link to Rodgers instructions doesn't work as the site is down.

Any suggestions on where to find the step-by-step instructions for drive building by hand? I supposed I could pull the Mk2a apart again and move the drive over to that to be built - but I cringe everytime I open the case of my empegs. I might have three, but they are irreplacable.

Cheers,

Clarke
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#252923 - 01/04/2005 20:17 Re: HDD problems after new disk installed - [Re: Clarke]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
I've got no way of knowing how to build the drives correctly. It's not in your FAQ oh, FAQ-master! :-)

Yeah, the hand-building instructions were at Roger's site. Hope it comes up again soon!

In the meantime, I'd just say run the builder image, like it says in the disk upgrade guide (remembering to press enter on the "disk appears to be already built" prompt, just like it says). There has been talk that sometimes running the builder image twice in a row works for larger disks. Not sure why or if that's even true.

WHAT WE NEED IS A NEW BUILDER IMAGE.
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