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#245778 - 07/01/2005 07:57 Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP
Bill Walker
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 62
Loc: NZ
Hi all,

I'm running V2.0 of Emplode and the RioCar Software on a Mk2 and everytime I try and add new files it bombs. Not much to go on but I have about 4GB of music on there and about 9GB Free. No matter what I try to upload emplode bombs. When emplode does bomb the empeg powers down.

Anyone got any pointers?

Thanks,

Bill
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#245779 - 07/01/2005 14:11 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: Bill Walker]
wfaulk
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Bomb how? Crash? Stop responding? Does it produce any error messages? How does the empeg "power down"? Blinking LED? Was it saying "synchronizing" before then?
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#245780 - 07/01/2005 19:16 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: Bill Walker]
tfabris
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Check to make sure it's not just this problem.
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#245781 - 07/01/2005 20:28 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: wfaulk]
Bill Walker
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 62
Loc: NZ
Quote:
Bomb how? Crash? Stop responding? Does it produce any error messages? How does the empeg "power down"? Blinking LED? Was it saying "synchronizing" before then?


Basically Emplode comes up with the nice windows debug, this program caused an error, do you want to send the info to MS. And the empeg says syncronizing before it happens, then when it does, it powers down completely (no blue led)

And I'm accessing the EMPEG over Ethernet and have the same problem on xp and 2k so I suspect its a problem with the empeg.
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#245782 - 07/01/2005 20:44 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: Bill Walker]
pgrzelak
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Please post a boot log. The only times I have had emplode crash like that is if the music partitions are not mounted on the player (possibly due to damage or fsck problems) but the root partition mounted successfully.
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#245783 - 08/01/2005 22:18 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: pgrzelak]
Bill Walker
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Registered: 24/08/2000
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empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 10101915)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004d80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hdb: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63
hdb: IBM-DJSA-210, 5729MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=12416/15/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:22:07:7b
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: [PTBL] [730/255/63] hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000
^A^H



Edited by billw (08/01/2005 22:18)
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#245784 - 09/01/2005 10:53 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: Bill Walker]
pgrzelak
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Hm... At quick glance, that looks fine. Does the player work normally with any existing music? You mentioned that you are going over ethernet. Can you...

a) try doing a hyperterminal capture of the console while the sync is happening to see if there are any error messages?

b) try doing a sync with USB to eliminate ethernet as an issue?

c) diable any and all third party software that may have an open file on the player - making it so emplode cannot dismount the filesystems.

d) do a manual disk check to eliminate that as the source of any problem?

Thanks.
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#245785 - 09/01/2005 20:10 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: pgrzelak]
Bill Walker
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 62
Loc: NZ
Quote:
Does the player work normally with any existing music?


Yes it does...

Quote:

a) try doing a hyperterminal capture of the console while the sync is happening to see if there are any error messages?



Hmm just tried and it worked fine.... it's a different cable though, so I'm wondering if the previous one was faulty.


Quote:

b) try doing a sync with USB to eliminate ethernet as an issue?



Ok, well USB started off working.... then bombed...emplode crashed as before...this time the empeg powerd down to flashing led, but would not turn on when button pressed... I'm guessing that because it went into bash rather than the player.

e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/hda4 is mounted.
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/hdc4 is mounted.
. server_protocol_handler.cpp:1386:Timeout during synchronise, restarting player
[21] player: old system call.
Function entered at [<0208dd38>] from [<0205ef70>]
r10 = 02153EC4 r9 = 00000000 r8 = BDFFFD20 r7 = 021A0964
r6 = 021A08F8 r5 = 00000000 r4 = 021A0940
Function entered at [<0205eed8>] from [<02069664>]
r10 = 02153EC4 r9 = BDFFFD0C r8 = BDFFFD20 r7 = 02154070
r6 = 0216BF6C r5 = 00000000 r4 = 0216BEC8
Function entered at [<020695d4>] from [<02066628>]
r7 = BDFFFD1C r6 = 02153DE8 r5 = 02154070 r4 = 02153DE8
Function entered at [<020665cc>] from [<02066db0>]
r5 = 02153EC4 r4 = 02153DE8
Function entered at [<02066d84>] from [<020670cc>]
r4 = 00000000
Function entered at [<02066e90>] from [<02066de8>]
r10 = 020AD438 r9 = 02153DE8 r8 = 0000340E r7 = 00000080
r6 = 0000000E r5 = 02153DE8 r4 = BDFFFD64
Function entered at [<02066dd8>] from [<020ad4f0>]
Function entered at [<020ad438>] from [<020b4824>]
r5 = 02153E00 r4 = BDFFFE40
Function entered at [<020b475c>] from [<020e9bbc>]
r4 = 00000000
Function entered at [<020e8330>] from [<020b45a0>]
r8 = 021573B4 r7 = 021573A0 r6 = 020AD438 r5 = 00000007
r4 = 00000000
Function entered at [<020b44f0>] from [<020e9bbc>]
r5 = 00000000 r4 = 00000000
Function entered at [<bffffcbc>] from [<021af9d8>]
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received signal 4
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Quote:

c) diable any and all third party software that may have an open file on the player - making it so emplode cannot dismount

the filesystems.



At present it is the pure developer image on there...

Quote:

d) do a manual disk check to eliminate that as the source of any problem?



Done.... after the above.... will try again tonight
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#245786 - 09/01/2005 22:47 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: Bill Walker]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I find this particular line very curious...

server_protocol_handler.cpp:1386:Timeout during synchronise, restarting player
[21] player: old system call.


It seems almost as if you had a mismatch between the emplode version and the player version. The boot of the player looks like 2.0 though. Please double check the driver installation for (possibly even reinstall) the USB driver set, per Tony's message above. It looks like it is timing out on a protocol message...

Another thought, after the fsck, is to manually allow the databases to rebuild on the player first. This should not matter, but it would not hurt anything.

Lastly, just for kicks, enable sync via the serial port and try to sync that way. Obviously you do not want to send any files up, but you might be able to just "touch" a playlist or something and force the sync. It would be a good test to eliminate the protocol and player versions vs. ethernet or USB issues.
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#245787 - 10/01/2005 07:23 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: pgrzelak]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Quote:
It seems almost as if you had a mismatch between the emplode version and the player version.


Nope. What that line means is that emplode crashed. The player got fed up waiting for it, and rebooted. The 'player: old system call' is a warning message from the kernel -- it's using a deprecated syscall to do something (probably the reboot).
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#245788 - 10/01/2005 07:43 Re: Emplode Crashing on Win2k and Windows XP [Re: pgrzelak]
Bill Walker
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 62
Loc: NZ
Will give those a go tommorow... have to finish some truck strengthening tonight...
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