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#233395 - 14/09/2004 00:02 Well, this sucks.
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Picture says it all.
Needless to say things at work are slightly crazy right now. Oh, and being on the emergency response team, I'm not allowed to leave.



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#233396 - 14/09/2004 00:08 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
OK, how do I make the image link?

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#233397 - 14/09/2004 00:11 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I edited it for you. I used:
Code:
[img]http://empegbbs.com/files/232549-strm9_strike_720x486copy.jpg[/img]

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#233398 - 14/09/2004 00:56 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: robricc]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Grrr.... I thought I tried that. Thanks.

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#233399 - 14/09/2004 04:37 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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Grrr.... I thought I tried that. Thanks.


It appears there is probably a very odd bug in the bbs code, sometimes it just won't recognise the img tags in a post, even when the data is totally correct.

I have had this several times but haven't managed to work out yet what circumstances it happens in.
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#233400 - 14/09/2004 12:19 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 777
Loc: Washington, DC metro
We have an office two blocks off the river near Canal Place in New Orleans. Old building. Leaky roof. Leaky windows. At least we're not on the ground floor - Subway leases that spot!

We're probably shutting them down today and giving them the day off tomorrow. We're just waiting for the 2:00 pm NHC update.

<gripe> And we just did this with our Palm Beach and Miami offices. Twice! </gripe>



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#233401 - 14/09/2004 13:11 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: jmwking]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Yeah, i'm freaked out about it too... i have a lot of friends and family in New Orleans, and my grandparents beach house is in Pensacola (which was turned into twigs during Andrew.) If a cat 5 hurricance hit New Orleans it would be disasterous. The whole city sits well under sea level and is surrounded by a levee system... a storm surge of what is it.... 10 ft or so would flood the city. Scary stuff.
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#233402 - 14/09/2004 13:31 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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a storm surge of what is it.... 10 ft or so would flood the city.

I read somewhere that this, bad as it is, isn't the worst threat to New Orleans -- the real threat is that a combination of storm surge and flash flooding could overtop and destroy something called the Old River Control Structure, sending the entire Mississippi flow down the Atchafalaya River instead and cutting off New Orleans's freshwater supply. Was this just scaremongering of the "Yellowstone's going to erupt and kill us all" variety, or is it a genuine risk? (Looking at a map, the Atchafalaya doesn't seem all that far away for pumping freshwater to New Orleans; I bet there are plenty of cities in California that get their water from further away.)

Peter

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#233403 - 15/09/2004 00:14 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: peter]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
It is an absolute risk. On the other hand, I'm more worried about being in 10-12 feet of water this time thursday. As a hurricane passes east of New Orleans, it counter clockwise flow is filling lake Pontchatrain. As the storm passes, the winds shift, possibly overcoming the seawall and filling the city with water.

Absolute worst case scenario is that a Cat 4-5 goes up the mouth of the Mississippi. I don't even want to think about that.

All that being said, if the storm surge is greater than 12-14 feet, the levee system is underwater and the city gets flooded. Even though we have the best pumping systems in the world, if there's nowhere to pump water TO, it's rather moot. And of course, since I made the first post, the danger cone has shifted west, so we're in more danger than we were yesterday, although it looks as though it will be to our east. This is good news, as the most rain from a hurricane is dumped on the east side. Most places around here can handle the winds, just not the water.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that it stays east of me and mine. Granted, I don't wish it on anyone, but at least other places have less dire consequences if it does hit.

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#233404 - 15/09/2004 00:16 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Loren, where do your parents have condo's? We have a couple in the Santa Rosa Dunes on Pensacola Beach. When Erin and Opal hit in '95 we sustained minimal damage, although the other side of the island wasn't so lucky.

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#233405 - 15/09/2004 04:44 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
My grandparents (RIP) own(ed) a house on Gulf Breeze, on the Gulf side beach, which is now my father, aunt and uncle's. They've owned it since before i was born... spent almost every summer there. I need to scan some pictures i have of the aftermath of Andrew... pretty unbelievable. I walked up and down the beach (what was left of it) and took black and white shots of the twigs and cement blocks that were left. It was so weird how one house would be completely gone, some washed away, and some still standing half collapsed. This is what was built to replace it. That pic was taken shortly after it's completion in '98 i believe. The bottom story is built to wash out completely... and the rest is about 15 feet up from the slab. Hope i'll get to see it again in person.

Found out today that most of my family in New Orleans made it all the way to Houston. They could have stayed with my mom in Baton Rouge, but they didn't even wanna be in that close when it hit. Heheh. My mom has a camp in Grand Isle i believe (haven't been there... it's a recent acquisition)... they are probably going to get a ton of damage on that place. They went and took the boat out and boarded up and said that i-10 back was going 25mph the whole way. They turned it into a one way out of N.O. Than there's my friends in N.O. who CAN'T evacuate since they have no car. Yeesh. Keep us posted... hope you make it out unscathed.
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#233406 - 15/09/2004 07:40 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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All that being said, if the storm surge is greater than 12-14 feet, the levee system is underwater and the city gets flooded. Even though we have the best pumping systems in the world, if there's nowhere to pump water TO, it's rather moot.

That does suck. Hope all of you come through OK. New Orleans is a great city and I hate to see it in danger...

Peter

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#233407 - 15/09/2004 13:35 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Ahhhh... OK. In good news, they're projecting a much tighter cone and we're not in it. We're still going to receive a LOT of rain, but that should be OK. Looks like Grand Isle is going to be taking some damage. They're starting to get rain NOW. Most of my immediate family in New Orleans is in memphis with the exception of my mother-in-law iand father-in-law. He works for the Police Dept. and she is the director of 911. My wife and I are both at City Hall getting things prepared to hopefully run smoothly. She's the web admin and is keeping things up to date and of course I'm the alpha geek. So we're both required to stay.

As time passes things seem to be looking better and better for us though.

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#233408 - 15/09/2004 14:50 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Sweet. That's good to hear. Tons of rain is never good either, but it's better than tons of rain and lots of wind. Can you post a link to the site ya'll are maintaining?
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#233409 - 15/09/2004 20:09 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Sure. http://www.kenner.la.us

As of 5:00 PM there hasn't been a drop of rain. Unbelieveable. It seems that a band of dry air is killing the rain bands that are sweeping west about 20 miles east of New Orleans. New pictures should be up in 15 minutes or so.


Edited by lectric (15/09/2004 20:15)

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#233410 - 15/09/2004 20:27 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Looks like you'll be getting some rain shortly. Stay dry.

http://www.weather.com/maps/news/atlstorm9/dopplerradar600mile_large.html
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#233411 - 15/09/2004 20:29 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
I agree, but the picture has looked like that for hours now. That dry wind keeps evaporating the rain before it gets here. Hey, do me a favor and try to get as many people as you can to hit the site. We're counting unique hits and since my wife is doing the site I want it to be a high number!

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#233412 - 15/09/2004 21:02 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
I like this one. This is our lake Pontchatrain. The normal wave rarely exceed 2-3 inches.


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#233413 - 16/09/2004 00:47 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: peter]
canuckInOR
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Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
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New Orleans is a great city and I hate to see it in danger...

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#233414 - 16/09/2004 21:36 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Well, we made it through withou even a drop of water. We had some wind, but very very little got damaged. My family wasn't quite so lucky. They're OK, but the neighborhood got pretty messed up. The amount of damage is unbelieveable. It's weird that I vacationed in Gulf Shores about a month ago and the place where I stayed no longer exists.

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#233415 - 18/09/2004 15:02 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
For those interested, my family is all OK. Finally got in touch with them this morning. It seems a tornado went through the woods about 50 feet from the house but missed the row of houses. Bad news is that restoring power could take anywhere between 3-6 weeks. Dad's practice took some damage, but the building is still there. He should be able to start seeing patients again in about 5-6 weeks.

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#233416 - 18/09/2004 18:32 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
wow. I am glad they are okay, but that was too close!
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#233417 - 19/09/2004 16:21 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Same here. Everyone is okay, but we are still unsure of the status of the house on Gulf Breeze. They still aren't letting people on the island. Here's some photo galleries with some aerial shots of the island and Escambia county. Pretty amazing. Doesn't look as bad as when Andrew came through, but it's hard to tell from those shots. The ones of the cars in the middle of the water are pretty crazy... as are the ones of Ft. Pickens under water.

This church is about a quarter mile East of my family's beach house.



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#233418 - 19/09/2004 18:55 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: loren]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I apparently missed most of the fun, but Pittsburgh (and especially the areas south and west of the city) got hit hard by rain; I was on my way back from Manhattan (where I had to go for the day for my second job). At first things were ok, but soon the roads got bad enough that I gave up and found a hotel. Visibility never sucked; needing to traverse heavy water flows across major highways was getting scary.

Several creekside low-lying areas around Pittsburgh flooded. I have a few pictures to scan and put up later. One person is believed dead but in general it's just been property damage.

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#233419 - 19/09/2004 22:11 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: Daria]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Virgina seems to have parts that got hit hard with tornados. Anyone in the World of Warcraft beta hasn't been able to play since friday night, since the data center got hit.

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#233420 - 19/09/2004 22:54 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: drakino]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I live in Caroline County in VA where there were a whole bunch of Tornados ... Several about 5 minutes north of my house. Pretty freaky -- the sky looked amazing and ominous.

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#233421 - 20/09/2004 02:11 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: mschrag]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
And that isn't snow.


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#233422 - 20/09/2004 03:22 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Heh, if the typical SUV commercials are to be believed, that Durango should be able to just pull right out of there.
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#233423 - 20/09/2004 03:31 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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And that isn't snow.


Sand?

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#233424 - 20/09/2004 07:38 Re: Well, this sucks. [Re: lectric]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
I hope that isn't your car Lectric, but seeing an SUV like that really puts a smile on my face!
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