Hi ..

I am having a strange problem with my player that i'm having trouble sorting out and wondering if anyone out there has any ideas?

This just started happening today...

When the player starts up the display shows:

Loading Music Databases...

then

Loading Playlist...

then

Loading Music Databases...

then

Loading Playlist...

and so on!.. forever!! (stuck in a loop!)

I've captured the output from hyperterminal, as follows:


empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102441)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004600).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IC25N020ATCS04-0, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: IBM-DJSA-210, 9590MB w/384kB Cache, CHS=19485/16/63
hdb: IC25N020ATCS04-0, 19077MB w/1768kB Cache, CHS=41344/15/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:09:89
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
player(7): memory violation at pc=0x02035370, lr=0x02173154 (bad address=0x821a2654, code 2)
pc : [<02035370>] lr : [<02173154>]
sp : bffffa34 ip : 00000000 fp : bffffa84
r10: 00000000 r9 : 02173148 r8 : bffffab4
r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000583 r5 : 02173100 r4 : bffffa40
r3 : 821a2650 r2 : a000b1d0 r1 : 02173154 r0 : 20002390
Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode USER_32 Segment user
Control: C0F7917D Table: C0F7917D DAC: 00000015
Function entered at [<0203525c>] from [<02035120>]
r10 = 00000000 r9 = 00000000 r8 = BFFFFAB4 r7 = 00000000
r6 = BFFFFA88 r5 = 02173100 r4 = 02180690
Function entered at [<02035008>] from [<02036e0c>]
r8 = 02112668 r7 = 00000000 r6 = 02173100 r5 = 00000860
r4 = 00000860
Function entered at [<02036c28>] from [<0202fd70>]
r10 = 00000000 r9 = 02112374 r8 = 0214D808 r7 = BFFFFD88
r6 = BFFFFD84 r5 = BFFFFD80 r4 = BFFFFD8C
Function entered at [<0202fa0c>] from [<0202f758>]
r10 = BFFFFEE4 r9 = 00000001 r8 = 0214D808 r7 = BFFFFEE8
r6 = 00000086 r5 = BFFFFDF4 r4 = BFFFFDF4
Function entered at [<0202f718>] from [<02031668>]
r6 = 00000086 r5 = FFFFFFFF r4 = BFFFFDF4
Function entered at [<02031464>] from [<02031794>]
r10 = 02031730 r9 = 00000000 r8 = 02112060 r7 = 00000000
r6 = 020000C0 r5 = 00000001 r4 = BFFFFF64
Function entered at [<02031730>] from [<020c8ea4>]
r5 = BFFFFF64 r4 = 00000001
Function entered at [<020c8dc8>] from [<02000104>]
r10 = 00000000 r8 = 00000000 r7 = 00000000 r6 = 00000000
r5 = 00000000 r4 = 00000000
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received signal 11
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
player(10): memory violation at pc=0x02035370, lr=0x02173154 (bad address=0x821a2654, code 2)
pc : [<02035370>] lr : [<02173154>]
sp : bffffa34 ip : 00000000 fp : bffffa84
r10: 00000000 r9 : 02173148 r8 : bffffab4
r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000583 r5 : 02173100 r4 : bffffa40
r3 : 821a2650 r2 : a000b1d0 r1 : 02173154 r0 : 20002390
Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode USER_32 Segment user
Control: C0F7917D Table: C0F7917D DAC: 00000015
Function entered at [<0203525c>] from [<02035120>]
r10 = 00000000 r9 = 00000000 r8 = BFFFFAB4 r7 = 00000000
r6 = BFFFFA88 r5 = 02173100 r4 = 02180690
Function entered at [<02035008>] from [<02036e0c>]
r8 = 02112668 r7 = 00000000 r6 = 02173100 r5 = 00000860
r4 = 00000860
Function entered at [<02036c28>] from [<0202fd70>]
r10 = 00000000 r9 = 02112374 r8 = 0214D808 r7 = BFFFFD88
r6 = BFFFFD84 r5 = BFFFFD80 r4 = BFFFFD8C
Function entered at [<0202fa0c>] from [<0202f758>]
r10 = BFFFFEE4 r9 = 00000001 r8 = 0214D808 r7 = BFFFFEE8
r6 = 00000086 r5 = BFFFFDF4 r4 = BFFFFDF4
Function entered at [<0202f718>] from [<02031668>]
r6 = 00000086 r5 = FFFFFFFF r4 = BFFFFDF4
Function entered at [<02031464>] from [<02031794>]
r10 = 02031730 r9 = 00000000 r8 = 02112060 r7 = 00000000
r6 = 020000C0 r5 = 00000001 r4 = BFFFFF64
Function entered at [<02031730>] from [<020c8ea4>]
r5 = BFFFFF64 r4 = 00000001
Function entered at [<020c8dc8>] from [<02000104>]
r10 = 00000000 r8 = 00000000 r7 = 00000000 r6 = 00000000
r5 = 00000000 r4 = 00000000
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received signal 11
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
player(13): memory violation at pc=0x02035370, lr=0x02173154 (bad address=0x821a2654, code 2)
pc : [<02035370>] lr : [<02173154>]
sp : bffffa34 ip : 00000000 fp : bffffa84
r10: 00000000 r9 : 02173148 r8 : bffffab4
r7 : 00000000 r6 : 00000583 r5 : 02173100 r4 : bffffa40
r3 : 821a2650 r2 : a000b1d0 r1 : 02173154 r0 : 20002390
Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode USER_32 Segment user
Control: C0F7917D Table: C0F7917D DAC: 00000015
Function entered at [<0203525c>] from [<02035120>]
r10 = 00000000 r9 = 00000000 r8 = BFFFFAB4 r7 = 00000000
r6 = BFFFFA88 r5 = 02173100 r4 = 02180690
Function entered at [<02035008>] from [<02036e0c>]
r8 = 02112668 r7 = 00000000 r6 = 02173100 r5 = 00000860
r4 = 00000860
Function entered at [<02036c28>] from [<0202fd70>]
r10 = 00000000 r9 = 02112374 r8 = 0214D808 r7 = BFFFFD88
r6 = BFFFFD84 r5 = BFFFFD80 r4 = BFFFFD8C
Function entered at [<0202fa0c>] from [<0202f758>]
r10 = BFFFFEE4 r9 = 00000001 r8 = 0214D808 r7 = BFFFFEE8
r6 = 00000086 r5 = BFFFFDF4 r4 = BFFFFDF4
Function entered at [<0202f718>] from [<02031668>]
r6 = 00000086 r5 = FFFFFFFF r4 = BFFFFDF4
Function entered at [<02031464>] from [<02031794>]
r10 = 02031730 r9 = 00000000 r8 = 02112060 r7 = 00000000
r6 = 020000C0 r5 = 00000001 r4 = BFFFFF64
Function entered at [<02031730>] from [<020c8ea4>]
r5 = BFFFFF64 r4 = 00000001
Function entered at [<020c8dc8>] from [<02000104>]
r10 = 00000000 r8 = 00000000 r7 = 00000000 r6 = 00000000
r5 = 00000000 r4 = 00000000
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received signal 11
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.

.... the last section then repeats forever!

I would be grateful for any suggestions, or how to go about fixing it!

Thanks in Advance!

Rich

I've sorted it... and the answer was in the FAQ (of course!)

Just ran the player without a playlist and all is well..
(must have a duff track on there somewhere !)

Rich

Mmmmm..... beer...

Or you could have been trying to play a song that doesn't exist anymore.

Richie C, great job figuring that one out on your own, nice work.

And Brad, if a playlist hits a nonexistent FID, I think it should (in theory) just skip it without causing a reboot like that. I'm not totally sure of that one, though, so you could be right.

I know it will (or used to) freak out a player. I think I had to do a Control - C to get out of it.

Hasn't happened to me since the beta days.

Richie C, great job figuring that one out on your own, nice work.

Thanks Tony... only really figured it out by searching for other posts with that "Player Received Signal 11" message (whatever that means!?)

I know it will (or used to) freak out a player. I think I had to do a Control - C to get out of it.

I did have to do a CTRL-C to get to the bash prompt.. however to begin with i thought there was more of a problem cous' i could even get CTRL-C to drop to the prompt! - turns out i had the flow control setting in Hyperterminal set to "Hardware" instead of "None", so nothing i typed would have worked! duh!

Mmmmm..... beer...

...Now there's an idea!

Thanks everyone.. just like to say this is the best forum on the net - and definatly the most helpful!! .. & the Empeg is one of the best gadgets ive ever brought! (even though i've had it quite a while - it still impresses me!!)

Rich

Now the trick is figuring out which track made the player crash.

When you do find it, hang onto the bad track somewhere. We might want to check to make sure it doesn't crash the 3.0 (Karma-era) decoder.

Now the trick is figuring out which track made the player crash.

When you do find it, hang onto the bad track somewhere. We might want to check to make sure it doesn't crash the 3.0 (Karma-era) decoder.

Hmmm.. well i guess i'll just have to wait until it happens again... unless you have any ideas how i can find it?

When i do find it i'll let you know.. if you think it would be useful!

Rich

unless you have any ideas how i can find it?

First let's assume you've got the MP3s on your PC's hard disk. Now look at your whole collection and decide which files are your own good rips, and which files are dreck downloaded from the internet (if any). Begin your search in the latter subset.

Then go through and start looking at the tags on the files. Excessively large tags (such as those which include album cover JPGs embedded in the tags) have been known to cause problems.

Then analyze the files with one or more of these tools and see if they show any anomalies.

If you find anything suspicious in your search, then try to queue up one of those files on the player and see if it crashes.