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#188815 - 10/11/2003 07:46 RDS Questions
burdell1
old hand

Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 931
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
The radio stations in my town (Minneapolis) are finally starting to use RDS in a useful way. Two of the stations are showing the song playing. However, it is only showing it in the upper left hand corner and it is about a 1/2 an inch wide. This makes it difficult to read. I wish it scrolled across the bottom. Is where the info is scrolling decided by the player or the radio station? Also, there is an RDS function on Hijack...what does that do? Also, does anyone know of a receiver that utilizes the RDS function (I don't think there is, but you never know.)

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#188816 - 10/11/2003 11:07 Re: RDS Questions [Re: burdell1]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
in minneapolis? egad.. which ones.. Cities97 was displaying their callsign last I looked.. but no one else was using RDS for anything..
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#188817 - 10/11/2003 12:04 Re: RDS Questions [Re: burdell1]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
However, it is only showing it in the upper left hand corner and it is about a 1/2 an inch wide. This makes it difficult to read. I wish it scrolled across the bottom.
There is one local radio station where I live which uses RDS. When I tune to this station, the song name DOES scroll across the bottom of the screen. Assuming they get it right, that is. About 50 percent of the time it's wrong. On my player, and on this station, the upper left corner of the screen is for the station call letters.

First, sanity check: What version of the player software are you using? Mine works as described above using 2.0 final.

Anyway, there's a very good chance that the RDS problems you're seeing are the radio station's fault. U.S. radio stations are well known for poor RDS implementations. FAQ entry here.
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#188818 - 10/11/2003 12:10 Re: RDS Questions [Re: tfabris]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
the upper left corner of the screen is for the station call letters.

Some stations may abuse the RDS protocol and put song titles, ads etc into the station name/call letters field, sometimes updating the string sent in order to make things scroll...

/Michael
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#188819 - 10/11/2003 12:31 Re: RDS Questions [Re: mtempsch]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Ah. There you go. The radio station's fault. They're putting the song name in the wrong field.
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#188820 - 11/11/2003 06:21 Re: RDS Questions [Re: mtempsch]
andym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
In reply to:

Some stations may abuse the RDS protocol and put song titles, ads etc into the station name/call letters field, sometimes updating the string sent in order to make things scroll...




That's illegal in the UK, as it could distract drivers.
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#188821 - 11/11/2003 14:04 Re: RDS Questions [Re: andym]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Am i right in thinking you lot the BBC invented RDS
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#188822 - 11/11/2003 15:31 Re: RDS Questions [Re: thinfourth2]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
One of the first papers on RDS was released by our research department. I also think the bulk of the first RDS equipment was designed by the research/equipment guys.
But I think the idea of radio data was first dreamt up by the European Broadcasting Union. I know the BBCs implementation of EON is probably the first.
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#188823 - 11/11/2003 16:27 Re: RDS Questions [Re: andym]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Oh hat is intresting i am really excited about the EON

P.S. what is EON
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#188824 - 12/11/2003 05:11 Re: RDS Questions [Re: thinfourth2]
mtempsch
pooh-bah

Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
EON - Enhanced Other Network, basically allows local stations to interrupt for a TA (traffic Announcement) even though you're listening to a non-local station.

Linky

/Michael
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