Just replaced the stock 10gb drive with a 60gb - (have one drive in player). I've noticed that it takes 5 secs to boot but it used to be almost instant. This is before I've put any music on it as I'm starting from scratch. Is this normal?

Edit: More like 14 seconds, not 5!

Greetings!

I think it is normal. I would guessing that the larger partition, even empty, requires a little longer to mount. Either that, or the drive spin up is a little longer. I notice that my player takes a few seconds when starting, but it does not seem to increase with the amount of music on it.

Mmmh... more like 14 seconds from switch on to 'loading visuals'. Does this look normal?

empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315
(release)) #12 Tue Apr 1 18:51:41 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102506)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea Universit
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004800).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, 57231MB w/1768kB Cache, CHS=7296/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:09:c
a
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k init player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 20
03/04/01.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000

15 seconds until Loading Visuals appears? Hm... That does seem a bit long. I did not notice anything unual in your boot log, though, except that you do not run hijack.

No I haven't got around to that yet! (Sorry Mark). I did notice it seems to probe the primary interface for 5 of 6 times - its here that the boot logo stays on and makes me wonder if its going to start.

The multiple probe is not unusual on the player. Basically, it is probing to see if two hard drives will answer. It will then time out an accept the responses from whoever replied.

You might want to run a quick comparison with the hijack kernel - it may have some optimizations in it.

I'll add Hijack tomorrow, its getting late here and I'll probably lose patience with it if I do it now!

I followed the upgrade guide to the letter and it was a straight swap for the 10gb one. I then ran the builder file and let it do its thing until I got fed up with it stress testing, so I quit that and then ran the developer upgrade. All seems well apart from the boot time. Maybe its totally normal, i don't know.

Thanks for your help, no doubt Tony will chip in at some point!

Greetings!

All of your boot logs look normal. Is the machine completely blank? That might be part of the problem. You may want to sync at least one track to it, see if that helps.

Yes, totally empty. I'll put on Hijack and some tracks in the morning and see whats what.

Thanks

Once you do install Hijack, go into the Hijack menu and select the "Hard Disk Detection" entry, and set the value to "one drive only" for faster boots!

Cheers

I'll do that when I get back from work. Didn't have time this morning.

In the meantime, if anyone else wants to pitch in...

hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive

i had this problem before. its taking a long time for hda to acknowledge. usually only has 1-2 lines max before it goes on. could be the hdd itself, dry joint, or ide cable. for me, it ended up to be a dry joint.

Better... now about 8 seconds. Would that be about correct for one 60gb drive?


empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v335 (root@ibbm) (gcc version 2.95
.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Tue May 13 15:01:19 EDT 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revis
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102506)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 14996k/16M available (996k code, 20k reserved, 368k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea Universit
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
IrCOMM protocol (Dag Brattli)
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004b00).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T060ATCS05-0, 57231MB w/1768kB Cache, CHS=7296/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:09:c
a
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initHijack: intercepting config.ini

khttpd: listening on port 80
kftpd: listening on port 21
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Better... now about 8 seconds. Would that be about correct for one 60gb drive?

8 seconds is optimum/expected for any size drive.

On a side note I just got a shock from the player when unplugging the AC adapter (was off at mains). Serial and ethernet was plugged in however.

I also noticed electrical noises when plugging in the serial last night - is this cause for concern?

Yeah, try a different power supply and see if that solves the problem.

Power supply was not plugged into mains though. So it can;t be that.

"Power supply was not plugged into mains though. So it can;t be that. "

If the power supply has left over charge in the AC to DC conversion circuitry, it can.

-Zeke