#159010 - 05/05/2003 11:14
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Not sure if it's better or not, but Cake's cover of "I Will Survive" is great.
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#159011 - 05/05/2003 11:17
Re: Worst song of all time?
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Slade - Merry Christmas Everybody
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#159012 - 05/05/2003 11:17
Re: Worst song of all time?
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Covers that are BETTER than the originals? David Wicox - "Missing You" (Originally by Bad English). One of my favorite tunes, though I don't like the BE version. Actually I’m not sure the song is really that great, but David Wilcox really makes it work.
Also for those of you who listen to Christian music, Caedmon’s Call’s “Hope to Carry On” totally blow the Rich Mullins version away.
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#159013 - 05/05/2003 11:19
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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1000 Mona Lisas cover of Alanis Morissette's "You Oughta Know" is great.
It was a hidden track, so it might be hard to find on P2P, but it's worth it.
EDIT: I had to edit this post twice. I got confused between 10,000 Maniacs and 1,000 Mona Lisas. 
Edited by robricc (05/05/2003 11:21)
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#159014 - 05/05/2003 11:21
Re: Worst song of all time?
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How about some of those C&W horrors:
Never heard:
Ferlin Husky's "The Drunken Driver Song" - about the guy who runs over his own kids?
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#159015 - 05/05/2003 11:22
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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I'll probably catch alot of flack for this, but I like GNR's version of Knockin' on Heaven's Door better than Bob Dylan's.
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#159016 - 05/05/2003 11:22
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Cake's cover of "I Will Survive" is great.
I second that.
But their "Race Car Ya Yas" song is awful.
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#159017 - 05/05/2003 11:25
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Me too. But, I don't really like either version of the song too much. Live and Let Die is the GNR cover I like.
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#159018 - 05/05/2003 11:27
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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I'll probably catch alot of flack for this, but I like GNR's version of Knockin' on Heaven's Door better than Bob Dylan's. I'll avoid it (though I'm tempted), but, in a similar vein, Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower.
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#159019 - 05/05/2003 11:36
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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better (cover version) than Bob Dylan's (original)
IMO, any cover version of a Bob Dylan song is going to be better than the original. Great songwriter. Shame he couldn't sing worth a damn.
Edited by Roger (05/05/2003 11:41)
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#159020 - 05/05/2003 11:41
Re: Worst song of all time?
[Re: tfabris]
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Side discussion: Covers that are BETTER than the originals? Laibach's Sympathy For The Devil, Club Nouveau's Lean On Me, The Happy Mondays' Step On, and, though I'll get killed for this, Friendship Seven's There Is A Light That Never Goes Out. Plus Annie Lennox's Keep Young And Beautiful, which, like the Quixote of Pierre Menard, owes its startling effect to its utter fidelity to the original.
The bloke who does the afternoon show on BBC Radio 6 apparently has a regular feature of covers better than the originals, but I don't have digital radio so have never heard it.
A few months ago, I saw a video of Marylin Manson doing a cover of an old 80's tune (don't remember which tune) and thinking it really rocked. But perhaps it only "worked" because I had the context of the original song to go from? If you're thinking of Tainted Love, then I thought exactly the same things. The Inspiral Carpets' version was good, too.
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#159021 - 05/05/2003 11:42
Re: Worst song of all time?
[Re: tfabris]
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I have to admit that there’s a few cover songs that I really like but haven’t heard the originals for comparison:
“Little Wing”- SRV (Hendrix)
“Higher Ground” – Red Hot Chili Peppers (Stevie Wonder)
“You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go”- Shawn Colvin (Dylan)
I know I probably should have heard the originals but please don’t berate me too bad, I just haven’t gotten around to listening to them yet.
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#159022 - 05/05/2003 12:09
Re: Worst song of all time?
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If you're thinking of Tainted Love, then I thought exactly the same things. Yup! That was the one. I remember thinking how perfectly it suited his style.
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#159023 - 05/05/2003 12:12
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
[Re: Roger]
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Lay Lady Lay. So badly sung its funny.
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#159024 - 05/05/2003 12:28
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Lay Lady Lay. So badly sung its funny. Arrgh! Drill... not... working... must... find... skillsaw...
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#159025 - 05/05/2003 12:51
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Doesn't like Dylan but does like S-Club 7. Pray we never meet... 
-Zeke
ps: I'm retracting my previous veto override allowance for the Dylan comments.
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#159026 - 05/05/2003 13:01
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Okay, here's a vote for a bad song which dovetails nicely into a discussion I wanted to have a couple weeks ago:
"Tai Shan" from the Rush album "Hold Your Fire".
I stood at the top of the mountain
And China sang to me
In the peaceful haze of harvest time
A song of eternity <shudder>
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#159027 - 05/05/2003 13:02
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Rachael is better looking than Bob. Besides, I still have an image in my head... Saturday morning kids tv show, girls from S Club were dressed as Xena Warrior Princess. Nothing can erase it from my mind.
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#159028 - 05/05/2003 13:02
Re: Worst song of all time?
[Re: Ezekiel]
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Madonna's cover of American Pie. It is just plain wrong.
A bad version no doubt, but I love to play it in the following medley:
Weird Al - The Saga Begins
Madonna - American Pie
Bob Rivers - Madonna Killed American Pie
(all of which are the same tune)
Followed by the original...
It always cheers us up on a c rap day in the office.
A couple of links for people who haven't come across those two particularly odd versions of American Pie:
http://yeahx3.ionichost.com/?Bobrivers.html
http://www.sagabegins.com/
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#159029 - 05/05/2003 13:16
Re: Worst song of all time?
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Bob Rivers - Madonna Killed American Pie I must have this lyric. Clicking on link now.
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#159030 - 05/05/2003 13:20
Weak Rush Songs
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Okay, here's a vote for a bad song which dovetails nicely into a discussion I wanted to have a couple weeks ago
HA! I knew you couldn't let this one lie!
I like Tai Shan, in fact I think "Hold Your Fire" is a great album end to end and it’s one of my Desert Island picks.
To continue your digression of a digression, I can't think of a single Rush song I would classify as "bad", but ones I wouldn't want coming up regularly on my Empeg (in no certain order):
"Cinderella Man", "Nobody's Hero", "I Think I'm Going Bald", "Rivendell" (like the song alright, it's just too slow to mix in with any other rock), "In The End", 1/2 the songs off the first album and most of off Vapor Trails. There are probably others, but these are, in my opinion, the weakest. Actually, now that I think of it I’d have to lump “Tai Shan” in with “Rivendell” if I’ve got a mix of Rock going: It’s too slow to be interspersed with more upbeat stuff. Still, I like it when I’m playing the album through.
In a similar thread (weak songs by great bands), I can’t stand “Black Hole Sun.” I don’t know why because I really like Soundgarden, but it just drives me nuts. I also realize I’m probably the only person who feels this way.
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#159031 - 05/05/2003 13:21
Re: Covers that are BETTER than the originals
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Yeah, well road kill is better looking than Bob, but that's not why I like the guy. I (apparently) am one of the few that likes his gravel strewn voice (to my wife's eternal chagrin).
I've nothing against your Zena fantasy, but I put some S-Club onto the empeg in my euro-pop phase a few months back and about ralphed all over the dash. Perhaps some video saturation at a strip club would help my pavlovian response, it sure did with that ex-Spice Girl (Gerri Hallo-something?) song last year.
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#159032 - 05/05/2003 13:23
Re: Worst song of all time?
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As long as Rachael is in S Club
Correct.
My vote : 'Gonna make you feel good' - Stefan Denis (aka Neighbours' Paul Robinson). All his own work. Big in Germany as well I believe.
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#159033 - 05/05/2003 13:32
Re: Weak Rush Songs
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I like Tai Shan, in fact I think "Hold Your Fire" is a great album end to end and it’s one of my Desert Island picks. Heh, HYF would be one of my desert island picks if the last two songs were simply deleted from the running order. 
I Think I'm Going Bald Yeah, they're not good at comedy, are they?
I can’t stand “Black Hole Sun.” You know, I love the song but it's overly repetetive for me. Some songs just repeat too many times before ending. Same thing with STP's Plush. That one could be cut to 2/3 its original length.
Heck, I could even say the same thing for "Fly By Night". Way too many repeats of the chorus at the end.
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#159034 - 05/05/2003 13:37
Re: Worst song of all time?
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Well if we're talking soap stars turned pop flops, what about Craig McLaughlin with 'Hey Mona'. It turned my stomach.
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#159035 - 05/05/2003 13:44
Re: Weak Rush Songs
[Re: tfabris]
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Heh, HYF would be one of my desert island picks if the last two songs were simply deleted from the running order. You can do that you know . . . (maybe you already have )
Yeah, they're not good at comedy, are they? Not that kind anyway. There are some better examples in later stuff (like I think the album cover for Counterparts is just great Edit: I mean the whole cover, inside and such). Also the whole first album is excellent comedy, if unintentional (and only because their later stuff is so different in lyrical style thanks to Mr. Peart).
Heck, I could even say the same thing for "Fly By Night". Way too many repeats of the chorus at the end. I've never felt this way about this particular song, well not unit "In the End" comes up because it sounds way too similar.
Edited by FerretBoy (05/05/2003 13:47)
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#159036 - 05/05/2003 15:04
Re: Worst song of all time?
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Side discussion: Covers that are BETTER than the originals? "Hound Dog" - Elvis Presley
"Respect" - Aretha Franklin
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#159037 - 05/05/2003 15:08
Re: Worst song of all time?
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In reply to:
Side discussion: Covers that are BETTER than the originals?
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#159038 - 05/05/2003 17:07
Re: Worst song of all time?
[Re: tfabris]
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I just learned something new, I'll try to find that one. I thought you were referring to "Sweet Dreams", the Eurythmics song. Same description basically, and I do like his version of it.
Worst song evar? Anything from the Grease soundtrack for me.
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#159039 - 05/05/2003 17:16
Re: Worst song of all time?
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I can't believe we got to this many posts without Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" (ooh hoo)
OMG, it just grates even thinking about that song! That's surely gotta be the worst song of all time, no?
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