Ok, I'm trying to delete the database and am having 0 luck. I put the dev image on the player, but I can't even get to a working shell. I've tried holding down q, pressing rapidly, etc but no dice. The machine goes straight into player mode and won't even listen to keystrokes to control the player.

I'd like to know how I might be able to increase the timeout for pressing q or any other way I can get to a shell prompt.

after that I was going to do

dest-empeg:/# cd /empeg/var
dest-empeg:/empeg/var# rwm
dest-empeg:/empeg/var# rm tags database playlists


and reboot the player

HEALLLP!

i think i had this problem once. and maybe it was ctrl+c that helped me out. but i can't remember. i'll try searching the bbs a bit

The machine goes straight into player mode and won't even listen to keystrokes to control the player.

This indicates trouble with the serial cable or the port settings.

But I followed the FAQ RELIGIOUSLY!!!

I was able to interact with the player just fine using the standard consumer image and the same settings in hyperterm, so I doubt it's the cable.

How DOES one increase that timeout?

P.S. A thought for the bss faq when you have spare time... you could put an example next to the UBBCode flags.

But I followed the FAQ RELIGIOUSLY!!!

Could be this. But, as I seem to be the only one with that problem I would say it is more likely you have flow control set incorrectly in your terminal software.

How DOES one increase that timeout?

The timeout isn't the issue (it is only there for the software that updates the player), you are supposed to be able to hit 'q' at any time. Did you try control-c as well?

-Mike

Ctrl-C doesn't work either. You know what's funny; the developer image seems to be mounting the drives read only.... isn't that abnormal when plugged into ac power?

empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315
(release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40103222)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 636f6972 'rioc'
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004100).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, ATA DISK drive
hdb: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
hdb: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:0c:9
6
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000

No. The drives are always mounted read-only except during a sync or when you manually change it.

Double-check your serial settings, especially flow control. Then wait until the player is no longer producing any text output and press `q', then <Return>. If that produces nothing, press `q' and <Return> again.

The only issues I have had along similar lines have all been down to problems with the serial interface on my PC (or more accurately issues with bl**dy Microsoft's handling of COM ports)

It is worth retrying 'q - Enter' at various points after the player is up and running, but I would try and change the com port you are using. I have had mine hijacked by something else a couple of times and it stuffs hyperterm.