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#141430 - 10/02/2003 16:41 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: oliver]
tonyc
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I have rows set to 17, and when i turn on the large font, the top of my screen gets scrambled up.

Checking....

Ah ha. Interesting... I am setting the Hijack screen geometry based on what font you've chosen, and at line 17, the large font extends past the bottom... Hijack complains about the geometry being too big, so the call fails, and the results on the screen are, well, unpredictable.

Temporary workaround if you REALLY want it on line 17 and REALLY want the large font is to start emphatic up with the following options:

emphatic -r 17 -f 2

This starts it off with the large font, which avoids me having to recalculate the screen geometry. I will add a check of the geometry for the next release, but this should get you by.

And i guess the last thing would be, what do we have to get the empeg guys to get this into 2.0? It would be really neat to add the lyrics right in the song properties in emplode! It would remove alot of steps that are needed to get the lyrics perfect

You're kidding, right? It'd take several kegs of beer, a crowbar, and a lifetime carte blanche at The Wrestlers. There's no way they'd hold up 2.0 (which is already in alpha.) Besides, my code is really specific to the Hijack API, which the player software obviously doesn't use. As much as it'd be nice to be able to contribute new things to the player software, there's no way it can happen.

Edit: Ouch, okay, I misread the original post... You were talking about just the tag editting aspect of it... Hmm. That's a little closer to reality than changing the player software... But I wouldn't hold my breath, unless Roger falls in love with this program for some reason.


Edited by yn0t_ (10/02/2003 16:46)
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#141431 - 10/02/2003 18:17 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: tonyc]
oliver
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The font size large i don't use, i like the small one. but i was just checking out the font sizes and saw that problem. I think i will move it up to line 16 and see if that fixes it, i just wanted the text under the track line.

As for the emplode software, i hidden registry tweak that enables id3 lyrics tag editing in emplode. That would be T&A!

Anyways, I have 2 beastie boys cds tagged up, working on getting all their songs done. Love this program, but I don’t really see myself using it that much. But the passengers in my car will probably like it quite a bit! Thanks!
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#141432 - 10/02/2003 18:25 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: oliver]
tonyc
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Anyways, I have 2 beastie boys cds tagged up, working on getting all their songs done. Love this program, but I don’t really see myself using it that much. But the passengers in my car will probably like it quite a bit! Thanks!

Glad to hear it, I love the Beastie Boys, that'd be 2 less CD's I'd have to tag. As of right now I'm probably going to start off by adding lyrics to my entire Pink Floyd and Tori Amos collections, that's a good 30 or so CD's. It'll definitely be a long journey to get to where a large portion of my music library is tagged.. But I hope the online lyrics DB thingie will help us all out in that regard.

Yeah, I'd love a hidden option for tag editing, though the thing to keep in mind is you really want the lyrics editor to be a WinAMP plugin, or something that has access to the current track time in your MP3 player, so you can automatically insert the current time. Otherwise it's a pretty manual process, even if emplode lets you do it. Unless emplode gets an integrated mp3 player, and I just don't see that happening.

As for "I don't see myself using it much," stay tuned, once I can clean the code up a little bit, I think this could be a lot more than just a lyrics viewer, people have suggested some great ideas, and they all seem doable (at this early stage.)
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#141433 - 10/02/2003 18:36 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: tonyc]
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Its not that i don't find it useful, But most of the time when i'm listening to music, i'm not staring directly at the empeg. Most of the time i'm driving in and out of traffic, and looking at the empeg trying to read the lyrics would probably get me killed.

Edit: I guess to solve this, we need to get going on the HUD project!

as for the emplode software, i guess then maybe get your "lrc2sylt.exe" program integrated into the hidden display the empeg guys could create, which just asks for the location of that tracks ".lrc" file, and on sync it would add those lyrics into the fids on the empeg! Now that doesn't sound too bad
I'd chip in on a keg or two if required


Edited by oliver (10/02/2003 18:36)
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#141434 - 10/02/2003 18:49 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: oliver]
tonyc
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Its not that i don't find it useful, But most of the time when i'm listening to music, i'm not staring directly at the empeg. Most of the time i'm driving in and out of traffic, and looking at the empeg trying to read the lyrics would probably get me killed.

Nah, I gotcha. I was thinking about including a disclaimer against any damages if you're reading the words and get in an accident. Wouldn't want this little project to land me in a "federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison." Yeah, a HUD would be pretty damn sweet.
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#141435 - 10/02/2003 18:55 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: tonyc]
oliver
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LMAO
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#141436 - 10/02/2003 18:59 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: oliver]
tonyc
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That actually gives me a great idea for an avatar, since I have been without one for nearly 4 years of being on this BBS...



Eeeeeexcelent.


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#141437 - 10/02/2003 21:07 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: tonyc]
justinlarsen
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ive got the 4 weezer albums all tagged up. will be ont he site when its up.
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#141438 - 10/02/2003 22:22 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: justinlarsen]
jheathco
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Who's gonna tag all those electronic mixes? Oh I'm so funny!
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#141439 - 10/02/2003 23:14 Re: Gauging Interest -- Custom Info Modes? [Re: genixia]
TheAmigo
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vol = vol + ID3_vol_tag;
if (vol > 100) {
// Hit limit - have to calculate real adjusment.
current_adjust = vol - 100;


I'd expect that last line to read:
current_adjust = 100 + ID3_vol_tag - vol;
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#141440 - 10/02/2003 23:26 Re: Gauging Interest -- Custom Info Modes? [Re: TheAmigo]
genixia
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Oops....You're right

I paid a little bit *too* much attention to my volboost code when writing that example, and forgot to adapt that line properly.

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#141441 - 11/02/2003 05:36 New style Fids organization? [Re: tonyc]
adavidw
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Hey Tony,

Does emphatic support the new directory structure for fids? My guess (based on my experience so far), is that it doesn't...
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#141442 - 11/02/2003 06:06 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: adavidw]
tonyc
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Does emphatic support the new directory structure for fids? My guess (based on my experience so far), is that it doesn't...

And you would be correct... Since 99% of the empegs out there don't have that structure yet, I haven't really gotten to supporting it. I'll work that in for the next release though.
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#141443 - 11/02/2003 06:32 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: tonyc]
adavidw
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Wow, nice avatar!

I moved the fids of my songs with lyrics back to play with it. I only had them in the new structure in the first place to practice my shell scripting.


In my testing, I noticed one definite bug: The "--mode" command line option doesn't work. "-m" works fine. I've attached a diff that I think fixes it, but I didn't recompile to check. It's a simple little thing that I'm sure you'd find yourself anyway.


Another thing that I've noticed is that I can't get -o or --offset to have any apparent effect. Can you verify that it's working right? The readme seems to imply that the values entered are in seconds, but I noticed in the code that the default gets set to 250000. I didn't read further to see what that really meant. Is the value for the option microseconds? And if so, is the default not really one second like in the readme? (I haven't actually tried super high values for offset to see what happens.)


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#141444 - 11/02/2003 06:36 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: adavidw]
adavidw
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By the way, I haven't even started trying to figure out why synchronisation usually fails when emphatic is running.
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#141445 - 11/02/2003 08:25 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: adavidw]
tonyc
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Yeah thanks for the heads-up on the --mode thing, FITNR. Probably wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't told me, but as soon as you explained the behavior, I knew it was the no_argument thing.

The offset thing... Yeah it's in microseconds. I changed the default at some point during testing because I was getting more accurate results. I will change the readme to reflect the fact that it's actually in microseconds. If you change it to like 5000000 you should definitely notice a difference.
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#141446 - 11/02/2003 08:26 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: adavidw]
tonyc
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Are you running it off of your music partition? I *believe* there's a known issue where if you have programs running on your music partition, fsck complains, or something else during the synchroni[sz]ation process fails.
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#141447 - 11/02/2003 08:42 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: oliver]
jimhogan
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Anyways, I have 2 beastie boys cds tagged up, [

I tagged this one John Cage tune:
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#141448 - 11/02/2003 08:56 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: tonyc]
genixia
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Yeah, the sync issue definitely exists if it (or anything else) is running from the music partition. You can work around it by selecting emphatic in the hijack menu, and then telling emphatic to Quit. (Obviously 'Close' doesn't help).

[Edit]... and if you used EXEC (as suggested) rather than EXEC_ONCE, after you sync, emphatic will be running again which will mean that you will need to repeat the above for every sync.


Edited by genixia (11/02/2003 09:01)
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#141449 - 11/02/2003 09:10 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: jimhogan]
tonyc
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Thanks, Jim, we appreciate your hard work!
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#141450 - 11/02/2003 09:10 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: genixia]
tonyc
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Hmm maybe I should tell people to use EXEC_ONCE instead of EXEC in my install instructions.

Edit: Holy cow, I just hit 3,000 posts! I need a life!


Edited by yn0t_ (11/02/2003 09:13)
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#141451 - 11/02/2003 09:51 bug [Re: tonyc]
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Also, if emphatic is running and the empeg goes into standby, on resume, everything is all messed up and need to remove power and replace.
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#141452 - 11/02/2003 09:54 Re: bug [Re: oliver]
tonyc
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Known bug, mentioned earlier in this thread, in fact. Nothing I can do about it. I think Hijack could change the way it restores from a standby, but from my code, I can't fix this one. Workaround is to close out of emphatic before you go to standby. You don't need to actually quit, just close it and leave it in the background.


Edited by yn0t_ (11/02/2003 09:54)
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#141453 - 11/02/2003 10:14 Re: bug [Re: tonyc]
oliver
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ok cool, just figured i would mention it, i didn't remember seeing anyone else say anything about it, but i missed the early part of the thread i think

I also just tagged up D12
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#141454 - 11/02/2003 10:34 Re: New style Fids organization? [Re: tonyc]
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Are you running it off of your music partition? I *believe* there's a known issue where if you have programs running on your music partition, fsck complains, or something else during the synchroni[sz]ation process fails.


Aha. I got into the habit of keeping things in my music partition, because I was shuffling some pretty big files in and out for a while. Now that it's settled down, I'll move everything over to /usr/bin/local, or something. Thanks!
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#141455 - 11/02/2003 11:32 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: tonyc]
sirmanson
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Registered: 06/03/2002
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Ok, so I downloaded the 1.01 version of emphatic. I am running B13 and Hijack 312. I followed all of the install steps (ran the FTP batch file successfully, modified my config.ini [hijack] and [output] sections) ... Rebooted the player and don't see emphatic on my hijack menu. Any ideas as to what I should check next??

---- I forgot to note that I didn't modify the directories in the FTP batch file at all ----


Edited by sirmanson (11/02/2003 11:33)
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#141456 - 11/02/2003 11:40 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: sirmanson]
tonyc
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---- I forgot to note that I didn't modify the directories in the FTP batch file at all ----

Well, that could be a problem because most people don't have a directory named /usr/local/bin on their player. This is the frustration with having no standard install process/setup... The thing is, if I chose a path which already exists on peoples' players (/bin, /usr/bin, etc) those tend to get overwritten by an empeg software upgrade.

Anyway, best thing for you to do is probably to create a main directory off of the root directory. Fire up Hyperterminal or whatever terminal program you might have, quit out of the empeg player software with 'q' and then type the following:

rw
mkdir /programs
ro

.

Then you will have a /programs directory which won't get overwritten during an upgrade. Edit the FTP script, changing /usr/local/bin to /programs, then re-run it. You should be okay then, assuming you added the ;@EXEC entry properly. If not, start up the player with your terminal program logging the startup messages and post them here.

HTH.


Edited by yn0t_ (11/02/2003 11:40)
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#141457 - 11/02/2003 13:01 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: tonyc]
sirmanson
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That did the trick. Very nice work guys!!!
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#141458 - 11/02/2003 14:57 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: sirmanson]
MadDog
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Since I've ben lurking for about the last year, I'll give a little intro on myself. I'm a Linux user. I hate booting into windows. I can move my way around in perl, and some C, C++..

With that outta the way, my problem is that SingIt doesn't seem to write any frames to the mp3 file, and lrc2sylt looks to be written to convert lrc files, so it wouldn't do any good trying to mind meld the sylt tag info into the mp3. Am I wrong? Is anyone else working on this? Will I need to hack together my own program? >:)

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#141459 - 11/02/2003 16:20 Re: emphatic Lyrics Viewer v1.0 Released [Re: MadDog]
tonyc
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Yeah, I found out after I wrote the README that SingIT doesn't write SYLT lyrics.

If I'm understanding your second point there, I think you're saying that lrc2sylt just converts one format to another. That's not correct. I think I tried to mention in the README that lrc2sylt reads in LRC files and writes SYLT lyric frames *to the MP3 file.* So no "mind melding" of the SYLT tag into the MP3 is necessary -- id3lib takes care of that.

The thing is, it's just a command-line util, we'd all love something prettier. Oliver PM'ed me saying he's going to cut his teeth on a GUI-based tool to do the job, but he plans on using .NET technology to do it, so I'm afraid that won't help a Linux snob like yourself. That is, unless one of these .NET frameworks like Ximian or dotGNU actually work, which I doubt...

Anyway, the ideal situation for me would be having both WinAMP 2.x and XMMS plugins to do the job. I see myself focusing on emphatic development for now, so any kind of taggers/plugins/GUI's are going to have to be someone else's bag. I can get into those in the future, but I see emphatic doing other things in addition to just the lyrics, and I wanna develop that stuff first. That, and I'm woefully behind on grad school projects.

Anyway, just wanted to clear up the fact that lrc2sylt does indeed write tags to the MP3.
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