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#122023 - 21/10/2002 02:40 extended codepage fonts in emplode
enlightner
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Registered: 21/10/2002
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Hi,

I'm trying to implement cyrillic fonts on the empeg. I have modified the fonts using the Rio Font Editor. Now when I upload a song with cyrillic id3 tags, it displays correctly. However, when I create a playlist in emplode, the characters display correctly as I'm typing them, but as soon as I hit enter, they are changed to question marks. On the empeg this playlist will also be displayed as a series of question marks.

Has nayone encountered this problem, or knows how to fix it.

Thanks in advance.

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#122024 - 21/10/2002 03:29 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: enlightner]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I think you may be trying to apply a simple solution to a complex problem. The 2.0 player branch and its version of emplode have not been internationalised. I would like to see our fully internationalised version make it into a car player build some day, offering Unicode/UTF8 throughout the UI and database.

Rob

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#122025 - 21/10/2002 04:18 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: enlightner]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Loc: Cambridge, England
I'm trying to implement cyrillic fonts on the empeg. I have modified the fonts using the Rio Font Editor. Now when I upload a song with cyrillic id3 tags, it displays correctly. However, when I create a playlist in emplode, the characters display correctly as I'm typing them, but as soon as I hit enter, they are changed to question marks. On the empeg this playlist will also be displayed as a series of question marks.

What version of Windows? On Windows 98/ME, it stands a chance of accidentally working, as long as your system codepage (which is presumably CP866, not ISO8859-5) is the same as the codepage you made your empeg fonts for. On Windows NT/2000/XP, Emplode is probably getting thrown Unicode (>U+00FF) characters that it doesn't know how to deal with.

As Rob implied, we hope to solve this problem the right way in the future (i.e. post-2.0), so that the same empeg can correctly display Cyrillic, Latin-1, and other character sets from a single large font.

Peter

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#122026 - 21/10/2002 05:50 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: peter]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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#122027 - 21/10/2002 06:11 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: wfaulk]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Tengwar?

Apart from the fact that that extension hasn't been ratified yet, Tengwar is like Arabic in that considerably more glyphs are needed to display it than to represent it -- you need extra glyphs for characters with combining diacritics, not least because two or more diacritics can apply to the same character (e.g. U+E00C U+E040 U+E045 U+E05C is one glyph). The work involved in generating those glyphs, or in putting enough intelligence into the font engine to construct those glyphs on-the-fly, isn't likely to appear on Sonicblue's product roadmap any time soon :-(

Peter

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#122028 - 21/10/2002 06:23 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: peter]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Come on! This is obviously where you need to be spending your software development time!
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#122029 - 21/10/2002 09:21 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: enlightner]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
enlightener, as a work-around, have you tried this?

Instead of creating the playlist by hand, name a folder on your hard disk that name, then drag and drop that folder onto emplode. This bypasses the hand-input of the characters and might work around this issue.
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#122030 - 17/06/2003 23:16 Re: extended codepage fonts in emplode [Re: enlightner]
TheAmigo
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Registered: 14/09/2000
Posts: 363
So now that I've already posted mine, I just found this thread.

I've not had any problems with playlist names in emplode (WinXP) nor in the menus on the player (2.0b11). But then I saw Tony's comment about naming a folder and dragging that in to Emplode, not an m3u... and that's exactly what I did. I've not tried any .m3us with cyrillic titles.

BTW, did you write a large cyrillic font? I only have medium and small so far
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