Hmm, are you suggesting that with the benefit of hindsight we might have gone for one of those lucrative IP deals that would have ensured the discontinuation of all manufacturing and consumer sales at the end of 2000? I guess we could have just shut down the business, that's always a good option too.

Instead we went with SB and that decision quadrupled the volume of car players in the world. Frankly that's more car players than I thought would ever be made when we were empeg.

Rob