Not trying to be smart ass or anything of the sort, but i'm genuinly curious why you'd want an HDD player AND an empeg.

Hey, this is Dionysus we're talking about. If he wants a portable, he's got very good reasons for it. I'd think the Empeg isn't easy to strap to your belt and take for a walk in the park running on battery power. Some people actually spend time outdoors (can't imagine why, though).

Now that I think about it, Di does a lot of flying. A portable would be a good thing to have on a flight from California to Florida and back.

And anyway, I'm sure Dionysus read the other threads on the Creative Labs product and the other products. He's asking for comparative opinions from folks who have tried these products.

Oh, and just possibly, he's fishing for hints from Hugo. So, Hugo, gonna take the bait?

(My personal opinion is that one of the reasons S3 bought Empeg is so they could move into that market, and the next thing we'll see coming out of S3 will be a hard-disk portable running Empeg's software.)

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Tony Fabris