Ok, not to stir things up too much. I did a search for Nomad but didn't see any direct comparisons. I'm in a position where the Karma 20gb is apprx same cost as a Nomad Zen Xtra 40gb unit. Main diff I see is the form factor of the devices as well as the ethernet port on the Karma. I have two Empegs and am partial to the Karma mainly for that reason. But, I'd stil llike to hear comparisons between the two. if there is a web page review of the two head-to-head, I'd love to see that too. I know this will be a bit Karma biased, but what are the reasons to buy a Karma instead of a nomad zen?

thanks