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#94845 - 21/05/2002 16:18 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Ezekiel
pooh-bah

Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
We ship a ton of stuff UPS from my office and the Tracking number is generated when the item is tagged for shipment (either a sticker from a book or generated by the UPS software). They are valid from the moment UPS picks up the package. FWIW.

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#94846 - 21/05/2002 16:57 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: darwin]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
If I had been you I would have reported my player stolen (to customer support), which could have inconvenienced the new owner somewhat in future.

I'm not sure of the legalities there.

Rob

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#94847 - 21/05/2002 17:05 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: rob]
KungFuCow
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 234
USPS is actually very slow in updating tracking numbers. That's the post office, not UPS. Still, though.. whatever the case may be, as much as you have been jerked around, nail the guy to the wall.

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#94848 - 21/05/2002 18:04 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: KungFuCow]
Ezekiel
pooh-bah

Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Oops! My bad. I read too quickly. I've never used USPS' tracking system.

-Zeke
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#94849 - 21/05/2002 20:24 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: darwin]
BAKup
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Registered: 11/11/2001
Posts: 552
Loc: Houston, TX
Contact that guys credit card company. They *might* do something about it.
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#94850 - 21/05/2002 21:28 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: jimhogan]
mtempsch
pooh-bah

Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
No, the moderators at sounddomain didn't delete anything. He deleted them himself after I posted pointers to these threads. First I only posted on the empeg thread, but when that one "disappeared" I looked for more of his posts, and once I posted on the other thread, it disappeared too.

Sure looks like he wasn't to comfortable with having that information around...

/Michael
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#94851 - 22/05/2002 00:37 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: mtempsch]
Anonymous
Unregistered


What do you think this guy's punishment should be?
Only one choice allowed


Votes accepted starting: 27/06/2004 19:33
View the results of this poll.

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#94852 - 22/05/2002 00:38 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: ]
Anonymous
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I chose severe beating.

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#94853 - 22/05/2002 05:44 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: ]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
He can delete all the posts he wants I cut and pasted them.

Airline tickets from Seattle to Chicago $239.00 per person
Rental car for four days $180.00

The look on his face when he opens the door and I am there with a few of my friends... Priceless.

Actually I suspect the knock on his door is gonna be someone a badge and a warrant.
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#94854 - 22/05/2002 05:47 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: ]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
There needs to be one more option:

All of the above
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#94855 - 22/05/2002 06:13 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
andys
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Registered: 02/05/2002
Posts: 25
Loc: Yorkshire, UK
I vote for all of the above too ...

oh, and perhaps decapitation to dissuade him from doing it again ...

Andy.
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#94856 - 22/05/2002 06:18 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: kds]
andys
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Registered: 02/05/2002
Posts: 25
Loc: Yorkshire, UK
I agree, Chris has been a complete star over this whole affair and deserves great credit for his efforts.

Andy.
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#94857 - 22/05/2002 07:03 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: andys]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
Immersing hand in deep fat fryer seems popular with UK TV crime programme producers. Best when switched on.
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#94858 - 22/05/2002 07:52 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: boxer]
AndrewT
old hand

Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
Immersing hand in deep fat fryer

... followed by having your head dunked in the hot oil too.

I had hoped Lisa Faulkner would appear in more Spooks episodes, pity they killed her off

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#94859 - 22/05/2002 08:07 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: AndrewT]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
You're right, but I wanted to keep it for family consumption, but I can't place where the same dramatic device occurred before: I think it was a fish and chip shop and a protection racket.

And you're right again: A tasty piece, to use a non PC expression.
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#94860 - 22/05/2002 15:32 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: boxer]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Got an email from Austin... He swears it is in the mail. He gave me a tracking number (same one in the picture), but either USPS hasn't updated or it is bogus.

My big question is what about Andy and Keith? Assuming he is on the up and up WHO has FOUR 6Ogb Empegs and is willing to part with three of them. It is highly unlikely that this is the case.
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#94861 - 22/05/2002 15:50 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
My big question is what about Andy and Keith?

Why don't you ask -HIM- that question?
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#94862 - 22/05/2002 15:54 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
andys
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Registered: 02/05/2002
Posts: 25
Loc: Yorkshire, UK
He said in the For Sale post that he only had two Empegs and only one of them was for sale.

I hope you do get the Empeg, but I fear that this may just be more bull to keep you quiet. He may try and claim later that it was 'lost in the post' and that you have 'proof' he posted it because of the tracking number.

I have sent him a couple more emails asking for info on what is happening. I somehow managed to be polite and didn't mention scam or fraud. Unsurprisingly he hasn't replied.

I started off wanting to think the best of him and giving him the benefit of the doubt that it may all just be a mix-up. After all that has happened since and all the new bits of information that have been emerging of late, I find it almost impossible to draw any other conclusion than FRAUD.

Keith, have you had any joy ?

Andy.
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#94863 - 22/05/2002 16:09 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
I have asked him, read back in the post in this thread or the other.
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#94864 - 22/05/2002 16:22 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
The last time I received anything from USPS it was a couple of days before it showed up on the tracking page and came before I expected it since the page was never updated to show what day it was being delievered. They aren't very good about it.
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#94865 - 22/05/2002 16:26 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: Laura]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hmmm... makes me wonder... even if he does get the package... what's actually going to be inside the package when he gets it.

I'd say open it with a long pole if yuhknowwhatahmean.
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#94866 - 22/05/2002 16:44 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
acurasquirrel_
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 241
In addition to that you might want to video the actual openning for evidence if case he sent you a package full of coal
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#94867 - 22/05/2002 20:25 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: andys]
kds
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Registered: 28/07/2000
Posts: 21
I've received zero contact from Austin / HeavyHit since my post. No tracking numbers, pictures, email, etc. In the interim I've contacted Peoria authorities, filed an IFCC complaint, contacted his bank and contacted his ISP.

Chris, I see you're in WA as well. Let me know if you do decide to make a trip to Peoria. I have many friends and family in Chicago as well ;-)

Keith
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#94868 - 23/05/2002 05:57 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Delivery Status


You entered 0301 0120 0008 2824 7525


Your item was accepted at 12:56 pm on May 22, 2002 in PEORIA, IL 61601. Status is updated every evening. Please check again later.
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#94869 - 23/05/2002 07:15 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Christopher -

Yes actually they have heard from me. I asked Andy for his bank account info to wire back the money. Haven't received that info yet so I cannot do anything on his $750 BONES. I already told you and keith that they would get their money back or the empeg.


09:20 PM 5/23/2002 -0700, you wrote:

Austin,
And what about a tracking number or a refund for Andy Stott? He is the gentleman in the UK. This continues until then. And Keith? Don't forget Keith. Two more tracking numbers for working empegs or 1500 bones brudda (paid to them.) I talked to both of them yesterday and they haven't heard anything from you. And I am DEFINATELY not letting up until I test whatever is in this package out. If it isn't what you advertised I am not dropping charges.

Christopher Bennett


--Andy; DO NOT GIVE THIS PERSON YOUR BANK ACCOUNT INFO. DON'T FALL INTO THIS TRAP (again-we did once already) Demand a US Postal money order or a Cashiers Check. Maybe I am being paranoid at this point but look at the track record. I know you want your money, but don't put blinders on.
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#94870 - 23/05/2002 08:01 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Another good way to get payment is to force him to use BidPay. It will generate a money order from their credit card or bank. You get the money order, along with quick confirmation. As soon as his credit card clears, BidPay would send you email confirming the payment was made, they bill him and they send you the money order. If there is any fraud attempted with a stolen card number, BidPay (a division of Western Union) gets after him too...
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#94871 - 23/05/2002 09:10 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Whoa, wait a minute... he mailed the package to himself just so he could keep you off his back for another couple days?

I'm just flabbergasted.
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#94872 - 23/05/2002 10:04 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
andys
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Registered: 02/05/2002
Posts: 25
Loc: Yorkshire, UK
Unless 'accepted' means by the postal service from the sender ?

Andy.
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#94873 - 23/05/2002 10:07 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Anonymous
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I wanna know what takes the police so long. You know the guy's address don't you?

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#94874 - 23/05/2002 10:26 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
andys
stranger

Registered: 02/05/2002
Posts: 25
Loc: Yorkshire, UK
I don't have the details available at the moment (I'm at a client's site at the moment), but he did indeed email me this morning. I had previously asked him various polite questions about what was happening, had there been a mix-up, could he not supply the Empeg, etc.

His reply was short and completely ignored everything that was asked. He just said ' Send me your bank account details, Thanks.' No explanation or apologies for the lack of communication and apparent lack of an actual Empeg to sell.

Somehow, given this guy's track record, I think I'll be asking for an International Banker's Draft or Money Order rather than giving him my account details ...

I suspect he only replied at all because of Chris's persistence and the imminent threat from the FBI, etc. You don't think perhaps that he realises that he might not get away with this one and is desperately trying to buy his way out ?

Who knows ?

Will Keith, Chris and I receive our money back / the promised Empeg ?

We'll have to wait and see.

Andy.
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