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#93287 - 17/05/2002 15:09 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: DanielWO]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
The fuller form is of course "tatooed fuckwit" as said by the great billy connoly
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#93288 - 17/05/2002 15:11 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: cyberco]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Very sad but true in the uk traffic offences lots of police intrested, your hard earned things nicked why bother telling them.
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#93289 - 17/05/2002 15:46 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: avatarTX]
elvis
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 270
Loc: Arizona USA
I would take it back in that situation. I would also help the person remember that crime doesn't pay.
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#93290 - 17/05/2002 15:55 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: thinfourth2]
elvis
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 270
Loc: Arizona USA
Right.

Would you go after a motorist or a man with a gun if all you had was a stick to protect yourself?

At least all the cameras could record your slaughter!!
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#93291 - 18/05/2002 02:12 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: smu]
windchill
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Registered: 11/02/2002
Posts: 31
Loc: Zug, Switzerland
I will ask a colleague of mine who is studying law at the university and get him to tell me how current law is regarding this subject...

When I was at university about five years ago, it was taught the way I tried it to explain in my last post. Maybe it has changed though.

Marc

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#93292 - 14/06/2002 00:12 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: BartDG]
danthep
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Registered: 29/08/1999
Posts: 209
Loc: new zealand
Here in NZ, if you buy stolen goods "in good faith" you wont be sent to jail as per that law you quote.

But the goods will still be returned to their original owner.

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#93293 - 14/06/2002 00:13 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: BartDG]
danthep
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Registered: 29/08/1999
Posts: 209
Loc: new zealand
Here in NZ, if you buy stolen goods "in good faith" you wont be sent to jail as per that law you quote.

But the goods will still be returned to their original owner.

keeping the goods, and being charged with theft are two quite seperate issues.

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#93294 - 14/06/2002 00:19 Re: Empeg stolen! ... Spyware for the better good [Re: tfabris]
danthep
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Registered: 29/08/1999
Posts: 209
Loc: new zealand
Correct, the information is available to that site. However, if that porn site were to turn around and say "On this date/time, the following IP address accessed my site and downloaded illegal photos of minors", and they were to give that information to a private individual without a warrant, that would be (as I understand it) wrong.

Isn't that what hundreds of american firms do whenever you access half the sites on the internet?

I never gave doubleclick.net permission to track my ip and all the sites i visit. But doubleclick do track that info and make it available.

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#93295 - 14/06/2002 06:03 Re: Empeg stolen! Third time's the charm... [Re: EDub]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
>I've also seen how (excuse my non tech cell lingo) cell phone scanners can pick up the serial # from cell phones when they're in use and use them to place their own calls thus making free calls on someone else's bill. The guy usually won't find out until his bill comes.

That's a uniquely USA thing. GSM networks, and upgraded USA networks, now prevent cloning attacks with authentication mechanisms (random challenge/response).

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