I really dont like the Rio Car at all ... its way to fussy for me, has been nothing but little problems and annoyances, the display broke, got it fixed the Hard drive stalls, the wiring is done badly some pins are soldered some are not in the back and its ugly as hell. I know most of you like it and enjoy tinkering with it and all that but I hate it a LOT.

One day, when I have some time I will drive over it with my 1/2 ton truck - I'll enjoy crushing it to pieces - sure it cost me a bundle but heck - I dont want mine to exist, I expected too much from my Rio Car, I thought it would be the last player I'll ever have to buy - WRONG!. I'll take pictures when I kill my Rio Car and post them ... maybe a video too.

I'll free you of your burden if you wish. And I'll pay the shipping costs to boot....:)

Please dont ask me to sell it ... I REALLY need to see it die

you really need to use it a while to fully appriciate it.It's the best invention since tiolet paper,Then agian you probably dont wipe your ass.

Hmmm. Assuming you're not some douchebag pulling a prank with this post, I would avoid black cats and walking under any ladders if I were you.

4000 users, and you're the only one who's had so many problems that you feel the need to run over your empeg with a truck.That makes you remarkably unlucky. But wanting to run over it with your truck (instead of selling it) makes you a dope.

Your money.....have fun.......

DUDE SEND ME THE REMOTE. Pleeeeeeeeez

blakederosia@hotmail.com

Ive had my share of issues but do I care hell no this thing is amazing.

Hmm, can I have your sled?

If you send it to me I have a friend with a 80 ton press and I'll make a video of it being crushed if you wish.

I certainly don't feel that way about my Rio but I can certainly understand the frustration. Once again, not with the Rio, I think its great, but we all have owned things that just drove us crazy. I cut a set of headers off my Dodge once with a sawsall. I've also blown up watches with expolding bullets. My only suggestion would be for you to be more creative with your method of destruction. After all you paid for it, you might as well get maximum enjoyment out of it. If you run it over you won't even get to see it. Also if you destroy it, it just makes mine more valuable. Actually I think that destroying it is foolish. You can sell it and buy something you would enjoy. Since you've only made a few posts I am assuming you managed to purchase it at the reduced price? You would even make a profit or at least break even. What ever you decide, enjoy!

Hmmm - what does flamebait mean anyway?

You might as well make some money out of it - folks here are likely to buy secondhand sleds/empegs/components/hard drives etc.

And then you can spend the money you get on something more useful to you

Well I guess you are just attention seeking because otherwise anyone who genuinly didn't like their player would just try to sell it on and cut their losses!

Here, send me the hard drive as I am sure that the hard drive itself was not part of your problem, right? Besides, it is really dense, so if you take it out and give it to me first, the whole unit will crush much flatter and better. So you see, it is in your best interest to send it to me.

NOTE: I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS ACTIVITY, OR ENDORSE IT, AND I'LL DENY THIS IN COURT!!!!

We once filled a 12"(len.)x4"(diam.) farm irrigation pipe with gunpowder and literally erased our old stinky recliner chair from existence. I mean it disappeared. The fuse was really long though, in order to allow us to move down the road about 1/2 mile. Wish we had a fast action camera on it to see it happening in slo-mo. All we saw was a bright flash of light, then what seemed like seconds later, a big loud crunching noise. God Loves Stupid Texans.

Greg

No, I think that makes him a douchebag. Or at the very least, a moronic jack-ass.

Given you've only made 3 posts to this board, and in short time, it seems like you haven't explored all your options. Perhaps part of your difficulty came when you home-built an extension cord for your display to fit in your truck? Maybe at this point you screwed the player and decided you'd bait the "less adventurous" users of this board into a flame war?

When using as directed, it works fine for 99.99% of the people 99.99% of the time.

Greg

Yeah, i just saw that post about the display board, I bet he blew all the fuses messing around with it. What a moron.

Cum on XFIRE. (pun intended)

Send me your remote.

I have only one complaint about my RioCar(s) - Too much music available!!! Yeah, they can be finicky if your tinkering but the real problem is with all the music available (over 30gb on mine, 7800+ songs), I can never decide what to listen to. It was soooooo easy when I just had a 10 disk changer in the truck and loaded it once a week with the music I was feeling like and off I went. If what I had didn't fit the mood, then I turned on the radio, simple. Now, I feel like I'm missing the opportunity to hear something awesome if I turn the Rio off and turn the radio on. Although when I turn on the Rio, the massive collection makes it difficult to decide what to listen to. Sure, i could listen to the "whole player" randomly, but that sucks too because I'm constantly skipping stuff I don't really want to hear right then. **** sigh**** It is crazy, I've waited for years for this technology to become available, but now that I have it I'm frustrated constantly because of my options.......... Oh well, got to go... I've got 2 more gigs of music to load and a deeper hole to dig !

Bodybag, you will settle into this new paradigm soon enough. Give yourself a chance to live with the player a bit longer, and you will soon enjoy harnessing its power instead of being overwhelmed by it.

"you will soon enjoy harnessing its power instead of being overwhelmed by it."

Mr. Fabris,
I hope this eloquent statement becomes true, and I look forward to the day it happens.

...but that sucks too because I'm constantly skipping stuff I don't really want to hear right then...

Yeah, my girlfriend gets annoyed when I do this in the car. "Why can't you just listen to something all the way through for a change?", she says.

What I'd quite like is for the "Now and Next" display to pop up for a second or two, while I'm skipping tracks, so that I can see what's coming up, and don't have to listen to the start of it before deciding to skip it.

Actually, I've got a much better idea to solve this problem, but I need to keep it under wraps until I've sold it to enough people at SB that they give me a raise .

I have a sure cure for you "constant skippers" out there.

Simply ride in a car with another empeg owner. Once. Then you'll realize how annoying constant track-skipping is to the passengers.

I am now training myself only to do lots of track-skipping when I am by myself in the car.

Think I'll go update one of the FAQ entries on this subject...

Whatever you do, don't kill the tuner. I am pretty sure they are protected under the Endangered Species Act.

We once filled a 12"(len.)x4"(diam.) farm irrigation pipe with gunpowder and literally erased our old stinky recliner chair from existence.

A friend of mine can probably match that.

When he was a machinist's apprentice in Germany, he and his cousin went out in the countryside with a 55 gallon oil drum with the top cut out of it; a coffee can with a tight fitting lid; and some gasoline.

But wait -- I told this story once before! See here.

tanstaafl.

I absolutely love my empeg, to the point of buying a spare just in case something ever happens to mine. I can't imagine what it would be like without it. (Well, actually, I can -- which is why I bought the spare!)

But believe it or not, I can understand exactly where you are coming from. If you are used to and comfortable with the paradigm of just selecting a CD and playing it, and don't want to make your life any more complicated than that (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that point of view!)-- then yes, indeed, the empeg player is pretty intimidating.

I think I summed this point of view up pretty well right here so I won't repeat myself.

Don't let some of the less civilized posters on this bbs (c'mon, Greg, you're a nicer guy than that!) offend you -- but keep in mind that when you start disparaging people's religion they are likely to get upset!



tanstaafl.

Looks like I'll be making a pitstop in a couple of weeks on my way back to Austin.

Crush, TX eh? I like it I like it.

Greg

What I'd quite like is for the "Now and Next" display to pop up for a second or two, while I'm skipping tracks, so that I can see what's coming up, and don't have to listen to the start of it before deciding to skip it.

Kinda like this wish list item?

While reading your post I got this "do-de-do-do, do-de-do-do" tune in my head - I always use the 'track' display and over the past two evenings while driving home I wanted to know what the next-track on the album was going to be so as not to 'spoil the mood' of my listening experience thus far.

I'm wholly in favour of a brief 'next track' awareness while in 'track' display mode.

I really don't see what's wrong with just putting up Now and Next...?

Yeah, exactly that .

I've got the opposite problem. My girlfriend fell in love with my Empeg, not only has she hijacked about 2 Gig of space on it with her own (unique) taste in music - she insists on skipping through tracks in exactly the manner described!

She clearly needs a course in Basic Empeg Usage for Passengers. Wonder if Sonic Blue would do a remote-learning course

Because it would add 5 clicks or so... then you'd have to click back.

I meant leaving Now and Next up all the time.

press and hold down button > now and next menu appears
press and hold down button > now and next menu diappears

one extra button press
magic

Assuming that you're running with visuals enabled. I prefer the Track Info mode, where you can't do that. Or, more precisely, it'll switch between visuals and Track Info.

Have you killed it yet?

Just wondering if we should have a moment of silence in it's honor. You must be young, dumb and full of ...... (something).

I'm prepared to accept I haven't completely "settled in" with my Empeg useage (habits change).....

I use "Track Info" display all the time and but I'd like the Empeg to:
1. Show Now & Next during the last 5-10 seconds of a track -and-
2. What acurasquirrel said: Im not sure how possible this is but, it would be nice to when you are skipping through the tracks for the empeg to automatically go into now next mode so you can see what is coming up and then after about 5 seconds of continous play the empeg would go back to whatever info it was at.

- sometimes there are tracks that fit my mood better than others and they are not necessarily the 'next track' in the playlist so I'd like to skip over the ones I don't want to hear without hearing part of their intro(s).

Out of curiosity, have you tried your 'ribbon cable from empeg to display' idea? If you have (without buffering on both sides, induced spike and crosstalk protection etc), then saying 'the display broke' is similar to saying 'the display developed holes' after you shot it. There was a post here about properly done extension. IIRC, its cost was higher than original empeg's....

I meant leaving Now and Next up all the time.

Because then the artist, and source lines are not displayed, and I look at those all the time. A quick now and next would be awesome for browsing.

I must have found a keeper because she loves to skip and I dont mind it at all I just grunt when I like a song and usually she'll go back

I just grunt when I like a song and usually she'll go back

Mine doesn't do that last part.

"IIRC, its cost was higher than original empeg's.... "

And that was when the empeg was $1200!

WOW... Lots of replies. Its not dead yet but it WILL die under my Truck's tires!

DiE RiO CrAP DiE!
Crappy workmanship with a plethora of useless features for a premium price!

I don’t think I’ve seen a better example of someone who has more money than sense.

If I had a problem with my empeg(s) and decided I had no use for them, I would sell them on. I've already been offered £500 for my 10G by a desperate guy in a local computer shop (he said it would look great in his Skyline). So I know I could easily sell them, not that I would, because that would be insane.

So if you want to run your empeg over then you really must be a stupid as I thought, you might as well burn a couple of hundred dollars while you’re at it.

Anyway, rant over, if you do end up crushing your empeg, make sure you send us a video of it.

P.S. Before you have a go at the people who designed it, I would like to see YOU do better.

With a bit of luck he'll run his kids over when they do something wrong, and the world's gene pool will be that little bit richer.

Rob

Or alternatively, when he's putting it on the road, his truck could slip it's handbrake and save us all from the flamebaiter for good

What's really funny about all this is... some of you are actually taking him seriously!

C'mon, guys -- he's not gonna do anything silly. Most likely he is one of "us" under a funny name (remember Rex_Oah?) Someone's having a good time pulling your legs, and you're falling right into it.

tanstaafl.

I think a quick check of the customer service database should resolve that..