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#68569 - 08/02/2002 12:13 Beta 11 is out
tarkie
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 99
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#68570 - 08/02/2002 12:15 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Now I need to find somebody at my work with the serial cable!
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#68571 - 08/02/2002 12:15 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
:O
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#68572 - 08/02/2002 12:19 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
And the link at the top of the BBS still shows 7.... tsk tsk j/k
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#68573 - 08/02/2002 12:22 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Oh for heavens sake I really need to make that a scripted operation so I can get the post in first!



Rob

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#68574 - 08/02/2002 12:24 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Still no help file.

Or is there still an unannounced product?
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#68575 - 08/02/2002 12:34 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: wfaulk]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
http://www.empeg.com/downloads/car-v2.00-beta11-notes.txt

...oh wait.. you were talking about a help file in emplode. sorry 'bout that. =] but... umm.. Yeah.. there's the release notes!
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#68576 - 08/02/2002 12:38 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: rob]
tarkie
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 99
Sorry rob
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#68577 - 08/02/2002 12:39 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
PaulH
enthusiast

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 379
Loc: England
Now updated!

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#68578 - 08/02/2002 12:49 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
tms13
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Loads of stuff I asked for (RDS TA/AF/PTY, Visuals menu re-org, shutdown modes (and timer promised)).

Too Cool.

(And in time for the weekend, so I can test some of it)
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#68579 - 08/02/2002 12:50 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: PaulH]
dngovy
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Registered: 02/01/2002
Posts: 44
Loc: Houston ,TX
wohoo! Applying the upgrade now! Can't wait to see all the new features!!

Many thanks to the dev. team for the hard work they put into this great product!!

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#68580 - 08/02/2002 12:51 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: dngovy]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Yeah... where's the phone number of that pub again so we can buy them a round?!
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#68581 - 08/02/2002 12:56 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: wfaulk]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Damn!

I'll look for that on Monday.

Rob

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#68582 - 08/02/2002 13:00 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: loren]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
www.wrestlers.co.uk you need to ask for the landlord TOM and give him your credit card details.
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#68583 - 08/02/2002 13:53 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: tarkie]
justinlarsen
old hand

Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
THANKYOU TEAM!!!! much love for the update
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#68584 - 08/02/2002 15:04 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: justinlarsen]
jheathco
enthusiast

Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
Hell yeah! ...Anyone want my ol' neo?
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#68585 - 08/02/2002 15:11 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: loren]
Chao
member

Registered: 01/01/2002
Posts: 144
Make a quick HTML link that sends the user to the online FAQ under the "help" button

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#68586 - 08/02/2002 15:39 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: rob]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Heh, well it about the only way, since I know there are probably a few here using scripts to see when the new version is out. (I would have known earlier had my net connection not gone down. My phone got the notice while I was upgrading )

And whats the "w" I have seen next to the disk icon? I didn't see anything in the release notes about it.

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#68587 - 08/02/2002 17:57 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: rob]
Chao
member

Registered: 01/01/2002
Posts: 144
You are all beautiful snowflakes.

Errr, thanks!

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#68588 - 08/02/2002 17:59 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: Chao]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I'd prefer to be an evil snowflake.

Rob

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#68589 - 08/02/2002 18:53 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: drakino]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
writing maybe? There's a special writable partition while everything else is mounted RO... or did i dream that...
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#68590 - 08/02/2002 19:34 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: drakino]
synergy
enthusiast

Registered: 20/02/2001
Posts: 345


And whats the "w" I have seen next to the disk icon? I didn't see anything in the release notes about it.



Waiting? I've only noticed it when the disk is spinning up. I do like the newer HD icons... The reduced size just looks better.

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#68591 - 08/02/2002 19:46 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: synergy]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
HD Icons? There's more than one now? Mine just finished upgrading - HD icon looks exactly the same as it did with all other player images.

But man, do the fonts ever look MUCH better now.

Bruno
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#68592 - 08/02/2002 21:51 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: loren]
johnmcd3
enthusiast

Registered: 19/04/2001
Posts: 369
Loc: Seattle, WA (formerly Houston,...
I love my empeg. I've never owned anything quite like it before. Thanks again to everyone who made this possible.

- John
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#68593 - 08/02/2002 22:33 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: johnmcd3]
djdrock
journeyman

Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 86
Has anyone had any problems keeping 2 versions of emplode on their computers?
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#68594 - 08/02/2002 22:37 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: hybrid8]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Ok, for some reason the new solid-filled icon wasn't coming up when I first wrote the above message. I see what you were talking about now.

Bruno
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#68595 - 08/02/2002 22:43 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: djdrock]
jimhogan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
I was able to keep both 1.x and 2.x Emplodes on my PC by installing them in completely diffrerent directories.

FWIW, I think I'm done with that....both "empeg" (12GB) and "hugo" (60Gb) are running 2.0b11+ Hijack now :-)
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#68596 - 09/02/2002 05:21 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: jimhogan]
rockstar
enthusiast

Registered: 24/11/2000
Posts: 316
this is great..

so who will be the first to throw a kernel up with hijack, ir hack, and displayserver?

thanks guys

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#68597 - 09/02/2002 05:26 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: drakino]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
And whats the "w" I have seen next to the disk icon?

It means that the audio thread is waiting for data. It's a diagnostic.
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#68598 - 09/02/2002 05:27 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: rockstar]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Mark had released kernels that supported 2beta11 before 2beta11 came out...
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#68599 - 09/02/2002 07:34 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: andy]
SteveBrown
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Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 29
Woot! Excitement! I've only had the thing a couple of days and there's already a nice shiny new Beta Kernel to install!

The only problem now is that I was thinking of installing the Hijack system to see what it was like but of course there isn't an updated pre-built Kernel for us Windows wimps yet... Anyone got an idea how long it'll be before some kind soul updates the hijack page?

Oh and feel free to point and laugh if I've missed something obvious - I'm kinda new to all this hyper-geeky stuff... but I'm learning fast thanks to you peeps!


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#68600 - 09/02/2002 07:43 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SteveBrown]
mtempsch
pooh-bah

Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden

HiJack v193 (current as of writing) works with 2.0beta11 (as far as I've tested...)

I know it says beta10 on Marks site, but IIRC the number gets upped one when the release goes from internal (alpha testers only) to public, so beta11 should be same as beta10 except the version label...

/Michael
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#68601 - 09/02/2002 07:44 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SteveBrown]
beaker
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Registered: 19/08/2000
Posts: 588
Loc: England
You can use whichever version of Hijack is current (v193 at the moment). It will work fine with 2.0b11.
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#68602 - 09/02/2002 08:05 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: beaker]
SteveBrown
stranger

Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 29
Ok, so to get this straight: I could download the .zimage with hijack193 and the 2beta10 kernel pre-built and it would be exactly the same as the hijack 193 and 2beta11 prebuilt will be when Mark inevitably uploads it? I can't see any notes to say beta11 is any different from beta10 so I guess you're dead right. ooo! I can't wait so I'm gonna do it!

*UPDATE* I just upped my machine using the pre-built kernel on Mark's site and it's still marked as Beta11 in the About section of the player so I guess it's just labelled as 10 on his site. Cool!


Edited by SteveBrown (09/02/2002 08:14)

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#68603 - 09/02/2002 08:17 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SteveBrown]
beaker
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Registered: 19/08/2000
Posts: 588
Loc: England
Enjoy
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#68604 - 09/02/2002 08:31 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SteveBrown]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
The "About" display on the empeg shows the Empeg software version number (beta11), not the Hijack version number (v193). The two are not at all related.

And yes, Hijack v193 (and most prior versions) is compatible with beta11.

-ml

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#68605 - 09/02/2002 08:39 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: mlord]
SteveBrown
stranger

Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 29
Yeah I know that but the concern was with the pre-built kernel on the site still being for Beta10.

It's still labelled as Beta10 on the site but it reports as Beta11 in the About section after I uploaded it to the player so I am assuming that the downloadable file on the site has indeed been rebuilt with Beta11and it's just that the filename/site info haven't been updated yet.

Maybe I'm wrong but hey the upshot is that I now have a player with Hijack 193 and Beta11 without having to do any compiling myself so I'm happy!

Oh and it rocks!

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#68606 - 09/02/2002 08:46 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SteveBrown]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The kernel hasn't changed between Beta 10 and Beta 11.

Rob

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#68607 - 09/02/2002 08:59 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: rob]
SteveBrown
stranger

Registered: 07/02/2002
Posts: 29
Cheers for the confirmation Rob - I don't think I can take any more excitement so I'm going to have to go lie down in a darkened room. & I haven't even begun to try to put it in my car yet

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#68608 - 09/02/2002 11:13 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: SteveBrown]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
The prebuilt kernel on Mark's Hijack page is for *ANY* 2.0 beta, not only Beta 10. It says so on the web page. Mark has stated so himself in this thread. What more info do you need? Further, the ABOUT section is the empeg kernel version - it has nothing to do with Hijack.

Just run it and be happy. Mark's Hijack will always be able to be downloaded and installed on whatever player beta software you can download. Unless someone were to have kept Mark tied in a dark basement for a couple of months without access to a computer. You will NEVER have to do any compiling yourself.

Read the notes on Mark's website and read the FAQ. Yesterday. Or just post another message to the general forum and let's start this loop of confusion again.

Bruno
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#68609 - 09/02/2002 14:16 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: hybrid8]
andym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
Damn, just as I send off my first empeg back for repair and the other is winging it's way across the Atlantic do they release an update.

I'm feeling very jealous and can't wait 'till either of them arrive.
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#68610 - 10/02/2002 01:13 Re: Beta 11 is out [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
It means that the audio thread is waiting for data. It's a diagnostic.

I've been meaning to ask you: In addition to the "w" icon, there is also a new icon where it is solid gray in the center instead of hollow with gray dots in the center. What's that one?

There used to be four possible icons, documented here as:

No icon: Disk drives are spun down.
Icon with empty center: Drives are spinning up.
Icon with gray center: Drives are spun up.
Icon with bright center: Data is being read.

But now there appear to be six. I'm going to rewrite the FAQ entry as follows, but I don't know how to complete it:

No icon: Disk drives are spun down.
Icon with empty center: Drives are spinning up.
Icon with gray dots in center: Drives are spun up.
Icon with bright dots in center: Data is being read.
Icon with the letter W next to it: Audio thread is waiting for data (for diagnostic purposes).
Smaller icon with solid gray in center: ?????

Maybe I should get screen shots of these...
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