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#42858 - 20/10/2001 09:05 Price Drop
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Prices on the 10GB model have dropped from 999 to 699. The rest have all been cut as well.

Sean


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#42859 - 20/10/2001 09:10 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Oh CRAP... now i seriously have to consider buying the backup.

UPDATE: I did it. Got the back up. Phew... i've been thinkin' about it for weeks, that just pushed me over the edge. Thanks for the heads up man!


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Edited by loren on 20/10/01 05:23 PM.

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#42860 - 20/10/2001 10:43 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Hmm. Looks like SonicBlue wants to liquidate the inventory a little faster. I seriously shouldn't buy another one but I just broke my handle and I'm out of warranty... I think I just..... might..... do it................................................

ARGH!

-Tony
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#42861 - 20/10/2001 10:46 Re: Price Drop [Re: tonyc]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Hey, Rob V, how much time do I have left to make up my mind ?

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Zagreb, Croatia
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#42862 - 20/10/2001 10:47 Re: Price Drop [Re: bonzi]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Yeah. What he said. How much stock is left?

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#42863 - 20/10/2001 11:27 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
BarryB
journeyman

Registered: 07/10/2000
Posts: 54
Loc: Bellingham, WA (USA)
I haden't been on here in several months. My heart sank when I read about the empeg hardware being discontinued. I'm building a custom stereo setup in my NSX centered around my Mk2 along with a wireless basestation. Since it's unlikely there'll be another product with the same features including ethernet in the near future and how I plan to keep my car for a long time, I'll be SOL if my unit breaks. So even though I didn't want to, I took the plunge and ordered a spare unit.

I plan to keep it on the shelf as a backup. Anyone know if it would be better to run the unit a couple times a year or just let it sit on the shelf, unused for years until needed?

Also, several years from now (when all warranty servcie expries), will service still be available? Is empeg in UK planning to keep enough spare parts to fix units for years to come? In a year or so when Sonic Blue US refuses to acknowledge RioCar ever even existed, will we be able to get service and support from the UK empeg guys just like the old days?


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#42864 - 20/10/2001 11:28 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
dionysus
veteran

Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Wow - these things should move fast at that price..
-mark
PS - one click away from deciding if I want a spare or not...

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#42865 - 20/10/2001 11:50 Re: Price Drop [Re: BarryB]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I plan to keep it on the shelf as a backup. Anyone know if it would be better to run the unit a couple times a year or just let it sit on the shelf, unused for years until needed?

If kept in sealed package with some moisture absorbent (silica gel or such), I don't think you should periodically 'excersise' your spare. However, have you considered idea of mothballing your old unit and use the new one, to take advantage of warranty in the case something fails? Then again, the new unit will probably be minimum storage one, and upgrade would defeat the idea of using the warranty...

Also, several years from now (when all warranty servcie expries), will service still be available? Is empeg in UK planning to keep enough spare parts to fix units for years to come? In a year or so when Sonic Blue US refuses to acknowledge RioCar ever even existed, will we be able to get service and support from the UK empeg guys just like the old days?

Well, Hugo has kind of promised he and Patrick would demonstrate their soldering iron wielding skills, even as kind of hobby if absolutely necessary, and software development seems to go on anyway.

Which reminds me: according to Croatian law each non-consumable product has to have declared, apart from the warranty period, the expected lifetime. Both have prescribed minima for various classes of products. Manufacturer and distributor are obliged to provide service and spare parts during product lifetime (at cost after warranty period expires, of course). For something like empeg I think that minimal warranty period would be six or twelve months, and lifetime five or six years. Do other countries (USA and EU in particular, obviously) have such consumer protection laws?


Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
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#42866 - 20/10/2001 12:34 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Anyone got any idea as to how much inventory SonicBlue has left to dump before they're all gone? Rob?


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#42867 - 20/10/2001 12:59 Re: Price Drop [Re: mlord]
dewdman42
member

Registered: 13/09/2000
Posts: 186
Hmm, very tempting to get another one myself. I'm gonna wait a bit more though. I have a feeling they price may drop even more. I was talking to the guys at the local CarToys (they are a RioCar dealer). They've only sold like 3 units since they started carrying it.

Other than selling what's left to people like us who KNOW how cool this thing is...I think it may take them a while to move this inventory. maybe I'm wrong and I'll miss it. Oh well...I'll just use the one I have until it blows up then. But when I can find a backup unit for say...$500.. Then I'll get one. Maybe on Ebay someday or something...


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#42868 - 20/10/2001 14:40 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Hey, only American prices have dropped, right!?

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
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#42869 - 20/10/2001 15:28 Re: Price Drop [Re: bonzi]
BartDG
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
Damn! I noticed that too! The prices ARE going to drop for us European customers too, are they??? (that would only be fair...)

Riocar 58gig (48gig + 10gig IBM travelstar) S/N : 10101747 red
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#42870 - 20/10/2001 15:54 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
jwickis
addict

Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
I never noticed it before but 10g model doesn't have a blue screen but the rest of the models say they do. Unfortunately that model 'out of stock' now, too late for me.

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#42871 - 20/10/2001 16:47 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
So who do I see about a refund?



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#42872 - 20/10/2001 16:48 Re: Price Drop [Re: jwickis]
jimhogan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
jwickis: "Unfortunately that model 'out of stock' now, too late for me."

Don't be too sure. DR eStore is so FUBAR that that stuff often bears no relation to reality. I just ordered an "out of stock" 10G unit and got an anti-fraud call 30 minutes later to verify my credit card. I figure it's at least a 50-50 chance a 10G Empeg will show up here next week. Failing that, if they want to send me a 20G unit for the price of a 10G unit, that's cool.

A friend of mine had been talking about ordering an Empeg for months. I have been trying to reach him to let him know that the Empeg is EOL but no luck; I'm think he is on the road. The Rio site says absolutely *zilch* about the Empeg/RioCar being EOL and I'm afraid he'll be quite ticked at me if he orders one based on the price drop and finds out it is a dead product, more or less.

Jim

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#42873 - 20/10/2001 18:07 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
SuperQ
addict

Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
wow.. in a lapse of sanity, i just orderd a 10gig even tho it says "out of stock"

it's 8pm on a saturday, and i got a call from digital river with confirmation of the order..

wow.. i just looked at the callerID, and it's in my area code.. anyone else notice that?

(btw.. it's 612, in minnesota)

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#42874 - 20/10/2001 19:22 Re: Price Drop [Re: jwickis]
jwickis
addict

Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
So does a 10g come w/a blue faceplate or not, anyone know?

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#42875 - 20/10/2001 21:03 Re: Price Drop [Re: jwickis]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
they only come in blue

if you want to change the color later you can buy the faceplate kit that includes the other three colors

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#42876 - 20/10/2001 22:18 Re: Price Drop [Re: jwickis]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Don't worry, I don't think they are anywhere near out of stock. If they were, why cut prices by 300? There will most likely be 1 or maybe 2 rounds of price cuts left before its all over. The only thing that suprises me is that rob didn't leak the price adjustment ahead of time ;-)

Sean


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#42877 - 21/10/2001 04:30 Re: Price Drop [Re: bonzi]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I'll go into the office in a minute and reduce the empeg store prices accordingly. Any orders already placed over the weekend will be adjusted to the new price.

Rob



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#42878 - 21/10/2001 04:33 Re: Price Drop [Re: bonzi]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
No, as far as I'm aware there is no such law in the UK or US. The warranty is effectively a contract, though, and in the case of the car player it is 12 months.

Rob



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#42879 - 21/10/2001 04:35 Re: Price Drop [Re: tonyc]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I think there's quite a lot of stock left at the moment, however at these prices the intention is clearly to sell it as quickly as possible. I won't hazard a guess as to how long it will last - if, for example, a distributor decided to buy a large quantity then the situation could change overnight.

Rob



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#42880 - 21/10/2001 04:37 Re: Price Drop [Re: SuperQ]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I'm puzzled by the 10Gb out-of-stock situation (which I have had confirmed by the guy who administrates the eStore). I suspect it's simply a case of inventory location, and that the model will be returned to stock soon.

We definitely have 10Gb players at the empeg store.

Rob



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#42881 - 21/10/2001 04:55 Re: Price Drop [Re: Terminator]
JaBZ
addict

Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
hmmm.......unfortunately seeing as I just bought one, less than a month ago, there is no way I can afford another. It would be nice to get a backup unit........
maybe in 1 year or so when someone wants to sell their backup etc...

.



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#42882 - 21/10/2001 08:18 Re: Price Drop [Re: msaeger]
jwickis
addict

Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
I was already aware of the faceplate kit. I was curious as to why the Rio website says the other models have a blue faceplate while the 10g model doesn't, guess it's just a typo, oh well nevermind.

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#42883 - 21/10/2001 10:00 Re: Price Drop [Re: rob]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Please, also update the EU website. I am considering a spare empeg as well.

Thank you,

Taym
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#42884 - 21/10/2001 10:02 Re: Price Drop [Re: rob]
SuperQ
addict

Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
excelent

and I'm happy to say now that I have 2.0b3 on my player.. i'm just bouncy about empeg stuff.. mass-editing ID3 tags in emplode 2 is just so nice..

tho.. i think the database handling in emplode is a little big unstable.. i had a bunch of files that needed "fixed metadata"
and the empeg kept crashing while doing that.. (and would crash many times over USB)

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#42885 - 21/10/2001 10:07 Re: Price Drop [Re: Taym]
BartDG
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
If Rob says he wil update the website, he is talking about the EU one.

Though I've got my Empeg less than one month now, I'm also thinking about buying a second unit. I NEVER want to be without one anymore!!

Riocar 58gig (48gig + 10gig IBM travelstar) S/N : 10101747 red
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#42886 - 21/10/2001 10:14 Re: Price Drop [Re: BartDG]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
I totally understand you.
But spending so much money for a second one... I really have to think about it.
But I am more and more convinced to go ahead and get a second one...

Taym
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#42887 - 21/10/2001 16:51 Re: Price Drop [Re: rob]
bobo
member

Registered: 13/08/1999
Posts: 116
aehm, stil no noew prices online !?

bobo


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