#36098 - 09/08/2001 15:46
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots - wishes
[Re: Roger]
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the next version of the car player
I knew it, I knew it!!! There's gonna be a MK3 Let's see.... Where did I leave that *secret* JPG of it.... Edwin de Vaan
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#36099 - 09/08/2001 15:56
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots - wishes
[Re: Roger]
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Registered: 15/07/1999
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I got it just about working earlier this evening
Unbelievable ! !
I'll buy you guys a beer next Euromeet. Any brand preference?
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#36100 - 09/08/2001 16:43
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots - wishes
[Re: edwin]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Um. I think he meant "next version of the car player software", i.e., The Software Formerly Known As 1.1.
You guys are just way too wound-up. ___________
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#36101 - 09/08/2001 16:46
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots - wishes
[Re: tfabris]
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old hand
Registered: 12/01/2000
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he knows, he was just having some wishful thoughts.
sean
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#36102 - 10/08/2001 00:13
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
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I general comment on all the screen shots, are we going to have access to "fid" and "number of times linked" columns on lists of tracks ? (probably as an option for advanced users)
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#36103 - 10/08/2001 00:23
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: andy]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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I don't know what the final behavior will be in the released software, but in the version demoed at Woodside, you could customize the detail display and choose whatever columns you wanted. There was a pretty big list to choose from, too-- I'm pretty sure those two options you mentioned were available as columns.
I really liked this feature, so I hope it stays in there for the final release. ___________
Tony Fabris
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#36104 - 10/08/2001 00:49
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: andy]
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carpal tunnel
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Yes.
Roger - not necessarily speaking for empeg
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#36105 - 10/08/2001 00:50
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots - wishes
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Er, yeah, I _did_ mean the software -- 11:40PM GMT is local time for me -- I was a little tired .
Roger - not necessarily speaking for empeg
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#36106 - 10/08/2001 02:48
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Tony wrote:
> ... the Emplode Formerly Known As 1.1 will only work with the Player Software Formerly Known As 1.1
Is the converse true? IOW, if I upgrade the player, will I need a new emptool and JEmplode? (Emplode isn't much use to me unless I ever get a Windows machine - and that's *definitely* not on my wish-list, given experience so far )
Or are the protocol changes backward-compatible? (like adding new tags and config entries)
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#36107 - 10/08/2001 02:51
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tms13]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
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Loc: Cambridge UK
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The protocol has changed for 2.0 - of course we keep emptool up to date, while JEmpeg is someone else's problem (That's why the authors are in the alpha team!)
Rob
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#36108 - 10/08/2001 03:06
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: rob]
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I have a warm fuzzy glow.
I expected emptool would be up-to-date; I guess that's what you guys use in the lab?
Personally, I like emptool for bulk operations (like "upload -r *") and simple renaming, and JEmplode for tweaking play order (that's too fiddly in emptool).
One thing that occured to me was to edit playlists on the player - is the database built from the <fid>1 files? If so, is it possible to edit these on the player, then tell it to rebuild the databases, and get what I expect? I was thinking of building Perl for the empeg, and using it to (e.g.) sort albums by track number (emptool puts them in random order) and to build an automatically-maintained Artist tree.
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#36109 - 10/08/2001 03:19
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tms13]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
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I expected emptool would be up-to-date; I guess that's what you guys use in the lab?
John and Peter use it. The rest of us tend to use emplode.
One thing that occured to me was to edit playlists on the player - is the database built from the *1 files? If so, is it possible to edit these on the player, then tell it to rebuild the databases, and get what I expect?
Yes. Reordering playlists, however, requres changing the *0 files.
Roger - not necessarily speaking for empeg
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#36110 - 10/08/2001 03:25
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tms13]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
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Loc: Cambridge, England
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I expected emptool would be up-to-date
*cough*
I like emptool for bulk operations (like "upload -r *")
"upload -p -r", surely? By the way, as we're in the game of leaking Emplode 2.0 features, that's one of 'em.
is the database built from the 1 files? If so, is it possible to edit these on the player, then tell it to rebuild the databases, and get what I expect?
Yes and yes.
sort albums by track number (emptool puts them in random order)
That's a known bug.
and to build an automatically-maintained Artist tree.
Mmm.
Peter
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#36111 - 10/08/2001 03:41
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: Roger]
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Roger wrote:
> Reordering playlists, however, requres changing the *0 files.
Of course.
A nice tip for viewing the playlist *0 files on the empeg with a standard "developer" image is
od -A x -t x4 <fid0>
which clearly shows the 8-hexit FIDs that make up the playlist.
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Toby Speight Edited by tms13 on 10/08/01 01:33 PM.
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#36112 - 10/08/2001 06:14
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tms13]
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Registered: 30/07/2000
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If you are not ready to remember that cryptic od commandline, you could also install my pretty simple dumplist tool. You still have to know the correct FID for the playlist though.
cu,
sven proud MkII owner (12GB blue/ green/smoked, #080000113)
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#36113 - 10/08/2001 10:17
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: smu]
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carpal tunnel
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Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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I'd like to also throw in a vote for enqueing from within emplode. It would help me VERY much in DJ'ing the comedy shows I do....
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#36114 - 10/08/2001 10:42
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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OK, it's in the task management system. It'll get implemented for v2.0.
Roger - not necessarily speaking for empeg
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#36115 - 10/08/2001 10:49
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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In reply to:
OK, it's in the task management system. It'll get implemented for v2.0.
Score!-Tony
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#36116 - 10/08/2001 10:53
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tonyc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Cool. Now all that's left is for someone to decide what the button(s) on the toolbar should look like.
And what about the insert/append possibility? Will those be an option from within emplode? ___________
Tony Fabris
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#36117 - 10/08/2001 14:52
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots - wishes
[Re: Henno]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 21/07/1999
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Errr, refresh my memory. Is there a more functional remote control in emplode 2.0?
Just had another good hard look at the pics. This is truly a fantastic piece of work. Well done all.
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#36118 - 12/08/2001 11:59
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots *DELETED*
[Re: Roger]
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#36119 - 12/08/2001 12:05
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
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#36120 - 12/08/2001 18:27
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 17/08/2000
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Cool. Now all that's left is for someone to decide what the button(s) on the toolbar should look like.
I was perusing the Windows XP icon style guides and started thinking about Emplode. It would be fun to do. I know I personally like my applications to "fit" with the OS. As much as I try to avoid "skinning," is it possible for more than one button theme? Say a 9x/NT one and an XP one for win32, and uh... what ever for the others?
If some freak were to experiment with this, would empeg want to use them?
(PS: I checked the resources in GetRight, with the idea of cleaning them up... man, there are hundreds!
Brian H. Johnson
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#36121 - 12/08/2001 20:50
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: bootsy]
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Having emplode skins would be kind of cool, especially if the skin type was stored on the empeg and downloaded when you sync'd. Just think, your own personal style wherever you go..... Murray 06000047
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#36122 - 31/08/2001 02:29
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: Roger]
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journeyman
Registered: 26/08/2000
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It checks for valid files when importing music but can it check the files allready on disk? I supose i have several faulty mp3 files on the player but i see no way to filter them out. Veiko
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#36123 - 02/09/2001 09:40
Re: emplode v2.0 Screenshots
[Re: veixl]
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carpal tunnel
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No, it can't. That's what the "mark" button's for. If you press-and-hold the cancel button on the Rio remote, it'll mark the track for attention. You can later search for marked tracks in emplode, and deal with them however you want to.
Roger - not necessarily speaking for empeg
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