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#333011 - 15/05/2010 23:46 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: drakino]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
Originally Posted By: drakino
AT&T's contracts are 2 years for the iPhone, however, being able to upgrade to a new device tends to come sometime around the 12-18 month mark, depending on the subsidy on your current phone and what plan you have. Odds are, you will be eligible for the new phone at the lowest price.

Not if you're under 2 years. I'm fairly certain you only get the full subsidy if you're past the two years. I think there's a lesser subsidy they give you after 18 months.
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#333012 - 16/05/2010 00:57 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: Dignan]
drakino
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According to my account page, I'll get a phone at full subsidy price 11/21/2010. I last signed a contract with AT&T July of 2009, when I bought my 3GS.

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#333013 - 16/05/2010 01:19 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: drakino]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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Originally Posted By: drakino
Depends on how closely you follow things. A coworker bought a new iPhone 3GS to replace his aging G1 2 days before the story broke. He probably would have waited had he known the new phone was on it's way, as his G1 was still functional.

After the story was posted to Gizmodo, it was shown on every major news network, including interviews on morning shows and such. A lot more people are now aware of the new phone and the planned release this summer due to Gizmodo's actions.

Yeah. Good point. I can see what Bruno and you are saying now.

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#333017 - 16/05/2010 10:29 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: tman]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Apple's carefully orchestrated product releases and (usually) well-secured product development lifecycles play important roles in their overall business strategy and have helped them get to where they are now.

As I said early on regarding this sample's appearance on the web, the story and details of how this all went down were probably going to be more interesting than the details revealed about the product itself. Someone else even compared the people involved to characters from a Coen brothers movie. Quite apt.
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#333018 - 16/05/2010 11:42 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: hybrid8]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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It wouldn't be entirely out-of-character for Apple to now pull that product entirely (and string the 3GS along for a bit until the 2011 model comes out) and then try and pin the cost of doing that on whichever combination of Gizmodo, Hogan and Powell it is their wish to destroy.

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#333019 - 16/05/2010 12:09 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: drakino]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
Originally Posted By: drakino
According to my account page, I'll get a phone at full subsidy price 11/21/2010. I last signed a contract with AT&T July of 2009, when I bought my 3GS.

Ah, that's right. Still, I don't think it's 12-18 months, I'm almost certain it's simply 18 months. I seem to recall that with the 3GS, if you were 12-18 months, the subsidy brought it down to around $400-something. *edit* That is, for the most expensive model */edit*


Edited by Dignan (16/05/2010 12:10)
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#333021 - 16/05/2010 14:59 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: hybrid8]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
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Originally Posted By: hybrid8
Apple's carefully orchestrated product releases and (usually) well-secured product development lifecycles play important roles in their overall business strategy and have helped them get to where they are now.
smile

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#333022 - 16/05/2010 17:00 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: peter]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Really? I've only heard that type of thing applied to some small accessory, not a mainstay of company income...

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#333023 - 16/05/2010 19:25 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: altman]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
Think about how it works.

Apple has to be ready with hundreds of thousands of the item ready for the release date, maybe a million or more. The production for that kind of thing is tightly scheduled. Both for the logistics of the materials that have to come together, and for the economics of same.

Apple has fronted serious cash to have that quantity of items ready for sale. They need to be sold to recoup.

Depending, it might be the lesser hit to sell old stock at a discount, than to suffer the costs of holding back a product that is ready to sell.
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#333024 - 16/05/2010 20:29 Re: unlocking an iphone & other info. advice please [Re: gbeer]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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For Peter... Once the product is in "DVT" stage, it's already too close to release to dump. I've seen plenty of systems and options they've dumped in the past, though none because of a leak. None made it as far as DVT either, such as a G5-packing 17" PowerBook.
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