Hi All,
Anyone got the Original firmware (1999) for a mark 1?
Also the original release of "Emplode" (1999)
Needed desperately!

Many Thanks

Paul

this one maybe: http://www.empeg.com/support.html ?

Thanks- are those not the "latest" releases though?
Or am I being stupid?
I need the originals for purposes of..... originality

The earliest Mk1 release I have is 1.02 which was released in 2000 or 2001. I also have emplode 1.02. Let me know if you want it.

Yes please Rob!

is it possible to email it?
I would if possible like the earliest version (1?)if anyone has it!

Regards

Paul

Yes, I can email. Just send me a PM with your address.

I have 1.01.

In fact, I have a lot of old stuff. I've attached a file listing everything. Just pm me if you need any of it.

Hi All,
I am willing to PAY for the earliest versions of the firmware and emplode software.
It's needed desperately.
The mk1 unit I have is serial number 00247 - unfortunately it's got a much later release of firmware with a copyright date of 1999 - 2001 version 2 beta 1.1
I really need the original software that shipped with it!

Please help!

Paul

As a bit of history, the original Mark 1 hardware was finished long before the software was. The Mark 1 owners in general were very trusting and very patient with us in that period, and that formed part of the origin of the close relationship Empeg has always had with the owners. I don't think "Version 1.00" of the software was done until after we'd shipped the last Mark 1 -- the Announcements forum on this board still has the v1 launch announcement, and it's in August 2000, when we'd already started shipping Mark 2s. I'm not sure what the last revision shipped with a Mark 1 was, but it was probably v1 beta 12 at the latest. The very first Mark 1s shipped probably had custom builds.

Peter

Thanks Peter,
Sounds like I need Version1 beta something-or-other?

Yes. The software versions go something like beta1, beta2, ..., beta12, beta12a, beta12b, beta12c, v1rc1, v1.00, ..., v1.02, v2beta1, v2beta2, ... v2beta13, v2.00, v2.01, v3alpha1, ..., v3alpha11. Not all the alphas and betas were publicly released. Originally v2 was going to be called "v1.1", but I think all the actual releases were after it was rebranded as "v2". The v3 alphas do not work on Mark 1 hardware.

Peter

Thanks for the info Peter!

So.... I guess I'm looking for a Pre version 1 Beta.......

Help!

I'm intrigued, why do you need such early versions?

Andy,
it's for a video on mp3 players.
I've been instructed that it MUST display "copyright 1999" on power up - not "1999 -2001".
Pedantic I know..... but a "must have"

That, can be patched in, if you like.

Sounds good .... how would I do that?

Mmm.. well, with vim on a Linux system. The easiest way to accomplish this, is to first install the oldest player software version you can find. Then remove the hard drive from the empeg and attach it to a Linux box (via a USB dongle, or whatever).

Then, something like this:

mkdir /x
mount /dev/sdb4 /x ## replace sdb with actual device name
cp /x/empeg/bin/player /x/empeg/bin/player.orig
vi /x/empeg/bin/player

## in vim, search for 1998-200 and overtype it with whatever you like.
## Do NOT delete or insert any characters, just overtype them.
## Save the file when finished.

umount /x


Done. Put the drive back into the empeg and see what happens.

I can probably do all of that here for you, if you make your original ancient software .upgrade file available to me. Then you could just install the .upgrade file, without the need to remove/reinstall/edit the hard drive etc..

The oldest I have here is v1.02.

Why 1999, rather than 1998 ?

Eg. v1.02 normally displays: ©1998-2001 empeg Ltd

If so, that's because software development began in 1998; however nothing was shipped until 1999.

Peter

just jokeing here.... but why change it from what's original? was the whole point not to get close to the oldest software as possible?

strange thing for a project to demand anything than the org.?

I'll dig around in my old CDs, I'm pretty sure I have a beta 8 disc that shipped with my Mark 1 still.

Sorry I was guessing at 1999!

Is this some sort of patent prior art thing?

No,Its not.
The guy who's making the video (obviously) wants it all as accurate as possible.
If I don't "come up with the goods" ... I don't get paid... simple as that.
I've already had major grief about it being late.
I have to admit though, of all the "devices" I've sourced, far and away the "Empeg" is still the best I've seen!
I'm hoping to be able to "Sneak it away" for my car when he's finished! .............

If so then faking a 1999 copyright would surely not help the case very much, even if you could find someone sufficiently unconcerned about the legal status of copyright to do so.

Peter

Ah okay. I was just curious. Somebody awhile ago had come hunting for prior art for some unspecified patent case and they had very specific requests for dates and versions.

I guess it wouldn't look too good when announcing on film "This is the empeg, the very first commercial car mp3 player from 1998/1999" and then it splats "2001" on the display!

see what it splats and then say "This is the empeg, the very firs...." in that way you get it right..

Hi,
Still needing the software!
If ANYONE can help - please get in touch!

Many thanks

Paul

PAUL.A: have you tried contacting larry818 yet?

Hi,
Yes - Thanks
Larry has kindly sent me 1.01 (which i HOPE should be o.k.)

Paul

Looks like my CD with Beta 8c and 9a suffered bitrot. I did find 9b, 9c, 9c+, 10, and 10a hiding away on my NAS. Not sure what dates they will show, but I sent them Paul's way.

I've found a CD with copies of .upgrade files going back to beta6 and emplode beta5.

I haven't checked yet whether the dreaded bitrot has taken them, but the notes for beta6 are dated September 1999.

I wonder what the status of the video production is...


I hope that it ends up online somewhere so we can all see it.