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#298749 - 27/05/2007 19:33 Empeg won't turn on
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Ok. I need help with my empeg

My empeg does not seem to turn on in any way.

The led pulses regularly after what seems a regular boot. But, pushing any button will not change it from this status.

During boot, when all messages seem to appear on screen properly, I can hold down the knob and access HiJack. I also have the time to see vital sign and see that all memory and drive are recognized correctly. I can' see anything wrong. But then it goes in stand-by at the end of the boot, and stays like that no matter what I do.

Here is the boot log:

Code:


empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v440 (hijack@rtr.ca) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #49 Mon Oct 24 00:25:15 EDT 2005
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
Checking for extra DRAM:
c1000000: passed.
c1100000: passed.
c1200000: passed.
c1300000: passed.
c1400000: passed.
c1500000: passed.
c1600000: passed.
c1700000: passed.
c1800000: passed.
c1900000: passed.
c1a00000: passed.
c1b00000: passed.
c1c00000: passed.
c1d00000: passed.
c1e00000: passed.
c1f00000: passed.
c2000000: wrote ffffffff, read 00000000
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102813) 32MB DRAM
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 31232k/32M available (984k code, 20k reserved, 528k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 4096 (order 3, 32k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 32768 (order 5, 128k)
Page cache hash table entries: 8192 (order 3, 32k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 32768 bhash 32768)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005f80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: FUJITSU MHU2100AT, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: FUJITSU MHU2100AT, 95396MB w/8192kB Cache, CHS=12161/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:0a:fd
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia
Hijack: intercepting config.ini

hijack: removed menu entry: "Serial Port Assignment"
khttpd: listening on port 8888
kftpd: listening on port 21
Using non-standard cache size 314 (bonus 16Mb, adjustment 10)
player.cpp : 587:empeg-car 3.00-alpha11 2005/07/25.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1485 Jul 25 2005
Vcb: 0x414c6000



I have not tried to reinstall the software yet, and I don't know if that would help. I wanted to first post the boot log here.

Any help l greatly appreciated.
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#298750 - 27/05/2007 20:18 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
MMmmm... this is very puzzling. The hardware looks fine, and the software looks okay.

One thing I think you should try first: install the latest Hijack kernel. This can be done through the serial port without booting. I know there have been a few fixes since v440, but I do not know if any of those will help here. Try it.

Cheers

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#298751 - 27/05/2007 20:35 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: mlord]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Thanks for your help Mark.

Ok, I updated HiJack usig Logoedit, and the update succeeded. Still, no change.

Also, the empeg responds to PINGs, but the web interface (Charcoal) does not come up when I try to connect to it using IE.
Ftp responds, I do log in, but when I try to get a list the ftp hands at
"150 Opening Data Connection".
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#298752 - 27/05/2007 20:39 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Here's a log from Filezilla:

Code:

Status: Connecting to 10.10.10.108 ...
Status: Connected with 10.10.10.108. Waiting for welcome message...
Response: 220 Connected.
Command: USER anonymous
Response: 230 Login okay.
Command: SYST
Response: 215 UNIX Type: L8.
Command: FEAT
Response: 500 Bad command.
Status: Connected
Status: Retrieving directory listing...
Command: PWD
Response: 257 "/"
Command: TYPE A
Response: 200 Okay.
Command: PORT 10,10,10,203,198,96
Response: 200 Okay.
Command: LIST
Response: 150 Opening data connection.
Error: Timeout detected!
Error: Could not retrieve directory listing

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= Taym =
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#298753 - 27/05/2007 22:03 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Mmm.. I wonder if the +16MB of DRAM is acting up after boot ?

Here (attached) is a recent "factory" kernel, *without* support for the extra DRAM.

Try booting from it and see if anything changes --> install it with Tony's LogoEdit, same as before. If nothing new/good happens, then put Hijack back onto it afterwards.


Attachments
299719-kernel.zImage (121 downloads)


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#298754 - 28/05/2007 05:09 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: mlord]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Ok, I tried and nothing changed. So I reinstalled v. 476 of HiJack.

One more thing: when the player eventualy enters stand-by mode, I can't even start HiJack, even though during boot I can do so.

Later on I'll ry to open it.
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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#298755 - 28/05/2007 10:03 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
This is very strange, but I have a faint memory of somebody else reporting a similar problem not long ago (years ago?).

In your case, you said that the buttons (front panel?) *do* work until the player decides to go standby. That is a good sign, as it means the hardware is probably fine.

Next step is to connect via serial cable (ckermit, hyperterm, whatever), and hit Control^C to get a shell prompt on the player, after it finishes booting up. This should work, though it may take a few seconds.

At the shell prompt, try player -i to reset the saved settings.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (28/05/2007 10:03)

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#298756 - 28/05/2007 10:40 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: mlord]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Mark,

Will do. I am at work now and left the empeg at home, still open (yes, it was a sad commute).

Now, some more info, since I could not be more detailed earlier as I was rushing out. This morning I had ten minutes to open the empeg. I didn't really look at anything, but I noticed that the IDE cable had lost its plastic skin in two points, scratching agaist the display board. Wires are visible, unfortunately, but they seem still protected enough not to create any problem, yet. However, do you think that they may have shortcuted something on the display board?

I am going to be back late tonight, due to Tori Amos concert here in Rome (:D at least, somthing is good today!), and will try to get to the command prompt and replace the ide cable, just to be on the safe side. I will also put some protection to it. I should've done that before.

Again, thank you very much for you help, as usual.
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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#298757 - 28/05/2007 10:57 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Quote:
I noticed that the IDE cable had lost its plastic skin in two points, scratching agaist the display board. Wires are visible, unfortunately, but they seem still protected enough not to create any problem, yet. However, do you think that they may have shortcuted something on the display board?


Mmm.. possibly. If they do look a bit scuffed-up, then some extra layer between the cable and the display board certainly would not hurt. Perhaps just a few wraps of tape around the cable would do it.

Cheers

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#298758 - 28/05/2007 21:36 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: mlord]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Ok, I could not access the shell in any way. I tried several times, and never had such a hard time to do so in the many times I did in the past. I tried CTRL-C and Q at least ten times.

So, i decided to reinstall the empeg software. I used the image bult by Mark, including LBA48 support and HiJack 464, via serial cable. The installation was reported as successful. All on the display looked fine.

At the end of the process, the empeg logo stayed there, while I seem to remember that the Empeg was supposed to finally reboot. The Emplode upgrade wizard instead said all was fine. I clicked finish. I manually rebooted the Empeg by unplugging power.

And now, nothing has changed.

I am trying to boot my spare empeg by plugging this HDD into it.
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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#298759 - 28/05/2007 22:29 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
I tried to boot on backup player using same HDD, and all worked fine. So, the problem is in the hardware of player 1

To rule out that the problem is in the display board of player one, i swapps the display boards between players, and player 1 still does not turn on, backup player boots. So problem is somewhere on the motherboard of player 1.

The good part is that I can use the lighted buttons on backup empeg. The bad parts are

1. can't use the extra ram meory I had on the motherboard.
2. I have a motherboard to repair. And after all work done on it (digital, optic output and extra memory), that's bad
3. My backup player used to be my main player, and suffered from one bad problem: lower volume on rear left speaker. The opimist in me hopes that tomorrow, when I plug it in my car, the problem is magically gone. If not, I am back to that, too.

Ok, two empegs and none working properly. That's not good.
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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#298760 - 29/05/2007 12:46 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Great debugging job, Claudio!

So.. which is the better time to tour Roma and the rest of Italy.. fall, or spring?

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#298761 - 29/05/2007 14:26 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: mlord]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy

Well, Spring ends on June 22nd, right? So, I can selfishly suggest that it's better in Spring . And I can offer some good dinners, too!

In reality, both Spring and Fall are great time for Rome. I tend to prefer Fall because I simply like falling leaves and the Fall atmosphere in general, but I have to say that most people prefer Rome in springtime.
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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#298762 - 29/05/2007 15:56 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
Mmm.. SWMBO and I have picked Rome, Florence, etc.. as our next tour destination.. maybe we can trade repair services for bunk space..

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#298763 - 29/05/2007 16:17 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: mlord]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Mark, you're more than welcome in our bunk space, regardless of empeg repair services (which will be very very appreciated, anyway! ) .

My gf and I have a guest room which accomodates 1 person perfectly, two if they are not too space demanding

Also, my experience with houses in Canada with fabulous workshop in basement tells me that you shold consider that an apartment in the city in Rome is definitely smaller than that, generally speaking!

So, all that we need to decide is when and for how long!
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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#298764 - 02/06/2007 00:08 Re: Empeg won't turn on [Re: Taym]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Interesting Updates:

1. After a couple of days without problems on Empeg 2, today it locked in stand-by mode too. That was completely puzzling. Same HDD as old player, same displayboard, different motherboard. And, two days of flawless playing in between failures.
I realized then that maybe one thing could be causing this problem: an MP3 tune! That would have explained the fact that the hardware and the boot seemed ok. Thoretically, if a faulty tune was to be restarted upon boot, it could lock the player application.
So, during boot, I pushed "next" several times. When boot completed, the player skipped few songs and entered play mode without any problem! So, mistery solved! The good thing is that I do not seem to have any falty motherboard any more!

2. The empeg 2, which used to suffer from low volume on rear left speaker, is now working perfectly. Maybe moving wires behind the connector worked. So, currently, it seems this empeg is pretty ok too.

3. Tori Amos' Concert was SUPER! I got a picture and an autograph too

I'm happy.

Have a great weekend you all.
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= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

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