#286679 - 19/09/2006 19:59
Re: Bay Area Beer?
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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If you're going to be fancy about it, you might as well make the lenses out of electrochromic glass.
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#286682 - 20/09/2006 05:20
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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I *have* heard of Elites burning to the ground- leaky fuel lines + alumin(i)um and fiberglass chassis = potential total loss.
You don't need aluminium and fiberglass involved to result in a total loss from a car fire. Plenty of steel bodied cars are completely destroyed by fire.
That whole "melted puddle of car" effect that you get with fiberglass does make it look more impressive though.
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#286684 - 20/09/2006 20:11
Re: Bay Area Beer?
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old hand
Registered: 01/10/2002
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Loc: Fullerton, Calif.
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Aluminum, which can catch fire, burns very brightly. Of course, in a car fire, it's far more likely to just melt.
Nothing burns like a motorhome, though...
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#286685 - 21/09/2006 06:57
Re: Bay Area Beer?
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Registered: 01/10/2001
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Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Aluminum, which can catch fire, burns very brightly. Of course, in a car fire, it's far more likely to just melt.
Well, a suitable amount of magnesium really adds some flash 
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#286686 - 25/10/2006 20:22
Re: Bay Area Beer?
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
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For Mike (and anyone else with an eye for the Elise): http://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise.htmI found that while looking for Bugatti Veyron stuff. I also found an Ariel Atom article.
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#286687 - 25/10/2006 20:41
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: Robotic]
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Damn. I totally missed this meet. I have been spending too much time on "Off Topic" and not enough on "General" lately. AND DAMN IT - I lust after the Elise too!
- Jon
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#286688 - 26/10/2006 16:13
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: Robotic]
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addict
Registered: 25/06/2002
Posts: 456
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(and anyone else with an eye for the Elise)
A few things I wish they'd mentioned a little better:
- The undertray/splitter/etc has been designed to create a little bit of downforce to hold
the car to the road. Most street cars actually generate lift at any
reasonable speed (not a good thing).
- The aluminum chassis was mentioned. What was not discussed was what an
engineering marvel it is! It is made out of aluminum extrusion laminates which are
bonded together in a high temperature oven. I.e., the chassis is literally
glued together.  But don't worry, I think some fighter jets are done
this way, too. So it's probably relatively safe....
Also, some of the information is a little out of date.
But the only one of any significance is that it is no longer true that you
have to special-order one and put your name on a long waiting list. This
was true until recently, but now you can just walk into a Lotus dealership
and buy one off the floor. Assuming they have one in the package and color
that you want, of course. Although if you aren't on the one of the US
coasts or in the UK it may be a reasonable trek to the closest dealer.
(Actually, the warmer states have a fair number as well. Sorry about that, Idaho.)
And they would like you to be able to drive your new toy properly.
So if you buy one before Nov. 30th they will fly you to Vegas, put
you up in the Bellagio, and give you a one day Lotus Performance Driving
Experience including hands on driver's training and laps around the Las
Vegas Speedway with an instructor.
I have a bunch more stuff (including pics) that I have been meaning to post
to this thread for weeks, but right now I am swamped at work. So stay
tuned, and I will try to get around to it later today or tonight.
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#286689 - 01/11/2006 03:56
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: jbauer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Well, there really ought to be another at some point - We're now fairly settled* in Mountain View, and I'm therefore obviously up for beer & general geeking at any point, particularly if there are people visiting.
btw Mike is here the end of November, Rob is too at the start of December I believe - rather annoyingly I may be in china for both of those times, but I won't get to find out until nearer the time...
Hugo
* read: the freight arrived, so we're no longer begging plastic forks from restaurants to go with our boxed-up leftovers
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#286690 - 01/11/2006 04:53
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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Glad you're getting settled. Snow should be here soon. *crosses fingers*
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#286692 - 01/11/2006 16:52
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[Re: Robotic]
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veteran
Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
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Oh! Empeg ski-meet?
I'd be up for any ski-meet in Colorado.
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#286693 - 01/11/2006 23:53
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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btw Mike is here the end of November, Rob is too at the start of December I believe - rather annoyingly I may be in china for both of those times, but I won't get to find out until nearer the time...
I'm in LA with John C from December 2nd but we could easily pop up to the bay if anything interesting is going on.
Rob
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#286694 - 02/11/2006 02:53
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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We've got our kirkwood season passes, not worked out where we're going to stay yet. Driving the prius up there is also going to be an "experiment" (I've got chains... and recovery service!)
The plan is to be up there every weekend we can...
Hugo
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#286695 - 02/11/2006 03:38
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[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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I've got the scooby AWD, so when you need a driver, I'm most likely in.
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#286696 - 02/11/2006 03:43
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[Re: altman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Driving the prius up there
Wow, you've Gone Native, eh? Did you get it in time for carpool lane decals?
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but we could easily pop up to the bay
Far be it from me to discourage you, but that's 400 miles. However, I expect you know that, unlike so many foreign tourists who plan for the drive to take them 3 hours.
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Well, there really ought to be another at some point
I agree. I'm up for just about anything, just about any time. I'll be in San Jose this weekend, my girlfriend and I drop by Linda's Light Rail Lounge most Friday nights, if anyone's interested. It's out favorite neighborhood bar, extremely unpretentious.
Matthew
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#286697 - 02/11/2006 14:07
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[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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We've got our kirkwood season passes, not worked out where we're going to stay yet. Driving the prius up there is also going to be an "experiment" (I've got chains... and recovery service!)
The plan is to be up there every weekend we can...
Hugo
Mmm.. I could use a west coast "mileage run" for my StarAlliance status next year.
Let's hope for lots of early (December) snowfall!
Cheers
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#286698 - 03/11/2006 04:54
Re: Bay Area Beer?
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Didn't realise that there was a time limit on the decals, though I did miss out on the big tax rebate  Got it last month, but am attempting to keep up my commute - 7 miles each way - by nice shiny new Marin street bike (straight handlebars, but apart from that it's a racer). As for Rob "popping up", 400 miles would only take him 3 hours.... in the UK. I've seen how fast he drives Mmmmm how far is Linda's from the nearest VTA tram stop? Hugo
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#286699 - 03/11/2006 07:14
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enthusiast
Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
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What about a SoCal meetup in early December?
--Nathan
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#286700 - 04/11/2006 00:41
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[Re: altman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Didn't realise that there was a time limit on the decals, though I did miss out on the big tax rebate
Well, they were supposed to be running out soon, but I haven't heard anything recently.
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Mmmmm how far is Linda's from the nearest VTA tram stop?
Well, as you might imagine, the VTA stop is right in front. It might be half a block, but either way it's close.
My girlfriend and I will be there tonight around ten till around eleven, if you or anyone else wants to come by.
Matthew
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#286701 - 05/11/2006 03:01
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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I had work related panic (and still do, hence why I'm in the office) so we didn't get out of MV on friday night... at some point I might be able to make it out, but the near future isn't looking good Hugo
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#286702 - 06/11/2006 12:51
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[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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As for Rob "popping up", 400 miles would only take him 3 hours.... in the UK. I've seen how fast he drives
I was thinking an aeroplane might be more appropriate! Say, SNA to SJC, about 75 mins and little queuing at each end.
Rob
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#286703 - 07/11/2006 20:22
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Meanwhile, back on random Elise stuff... I bet this guy is very, very angry. Further details in some lotus forum
Edited by Robotic (07/11/2006 20:25)
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#286704 - 07/11/2006 22:48
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[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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Meanwhile, back on random Elise stuff...
Mmm..... sooo tempting! But I've only just bought the roadster!
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#286705 - 07/11/2006 23:30
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[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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oh DAMN. I can't imagine my outrage if that was my baby. Wow.
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#286706 - 08/11/2006 00:19
Re: Bay Area Beer?
[Re: Robotic]
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addict
Registered: 25/06/2002
Posts: 456
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Meanwhile, back on random Elise stuff...
I bet this guy is very, very angry.
I saw that earlier today and it made me very very sad.
I was surprised that it became an internet "meme for a day" and has shown up a bunch of places. The Elise forum was more or less "slashdotted" today because of this.
What's even more painful is seeing some lifting straps wrapped around the front suspension components and lifting the car that way while they tried to "fix" the problem.
That baby is definitely toast.
At least no one was hurt. Cars can be replaced. (Even fragile British ones....)
Of course if I were that guy I'd be mightily torqued off.
Especially after he specifically showed them the exact diagram in the manual they needed to follow in order to AVOID that problem.
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#286707 - 20/11/2006 22:41
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[Re: Robotic]
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Meanwhile, back on random Elise stuff...
I bet this guy is very, very angry.
Further details in some lotus forum
Oh my god! He better get a brand new car out of that.
- Jon
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#305563 - 30/12/2007 01:23
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[Re: altman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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I'm just headed out the door to go to the 8pm show at Rooster T. Feather's comedy club in Sunnyvale.
I'm going to try to convince my pals to go to Duke of Edinburgh afterwards.
Anyone up for a pint tonight?
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