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No travel through LHR for me until they get this worked out.

It covers LGW and I assume the others as well. Next they'll be making you go on naked

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Its all UK airports AFAIK. All of Scotland's anyway.

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Seems both reasonable and sensible

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Wow, I'd love to experience a 10 hour flight without a book, laptop or mp3 player. I'd also love cheking my powerbook and camera gear. No travel through LHR for me until they get this worked out.

Matthew

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I say we ban people. It is, after all, the next logical step.

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Why not just anaesthetise passengers for the entire flight? They'll take up less space lying down, you don't need to provide a meal or inflight movie, and there's no way that they're going to get bored when they're asleep.

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Wry comments aside, it surprises me that the people in police custody are English-born. What drives these people? Why are they so bent on hating everyone?

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the people in police custody are English-born. What drives these people? Why are they so bent on hating everyone?

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Everyone could be laid in their own separate escape capsule. If the plane got into trouble each capsule would eject in turn from the plane and parachute to the ground safely. The capsules would have builtin emergency beacons and inflatable skirts to make them float.

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I wondered about not even being asked, what the hell the stuff in my bag (hand-luggage) is after Hugos BBQ. A bag full of electronic crap, empeg steel-cases, a top lid with sharp edges it cutted a hole in the bag, and this all with no identifiable sense. Noone even wanted to look ito the bag. And now the totally other direction, no hand-luggage allowed. I think, they are getting too lax, when nothing happened a while, and too strong for a short time if there is an actual threat.
Not that i am unhappy, not to have to explain, what empeg spare parts are and why i can't check this stuff in. (4 rio receivers in my back-pack was nearly too much, no space left...)
Lucky flying BBQ-attendees, that this didn't happen earlier...

cheers,
Thomas

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Wry comments aside, it surprises me that the people in police custody are English-born. What drives these people? Why are they so bent on hating everyone?

Well, it briefly surprised me (not this time, but last time with the Tube bombings) but then it occurred to me that being surprised means one more easily believes foreigners to be murderous than compatriots, which I then felt uncomfortable about. The whole "well, they were foreigners anyway" thing can make it too easy to avoid the question of what it is that drives any human being like you or I into doing these things.

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TSA just banned liquids.

Courtesy of Boing Boing

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2) Airport Secuity as we know it is a charade to make us feel safe.

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Hmmm, I suspect some dear friends of Tony Blair and/or GW may just be in the X-Ray/Screening-Machine business. Just another day in the middle of manufactured war/terror.

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You know, the terrorists would have been happy with an explosion, but I would have to surmise that putting an end to usable world air travel has to leave them pretty pleased.

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extra checking (you will have to taste any liquids!)

Bring a bag of miniature alcohol bottles and have a party in customs

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Why are they so bent on hating everyone?

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Almost a quarter of British Muslims believe the July 7 terror were justified because of Britain's support for the war on terror, a poll has revealed.

And nearly half said the 9/11 attacks on New York were a conspiracy between the US and Israel.

The survey found Muslims under the age of 24 were twice as likely to justify the 7/7 attacks as those aged over 45.

It found 24 per cent across all age groups either agreed or tended to agree that the 7/7 bombings were justified, although 48 per cent said they "strongly disagreed" and 17 per cent said they did not know.

A third of those questioned said they would rather live under Sharia law in the UK than British law.

The survey also reveals concerns among Muslims about Britain's moral standards, with 40 per cent saying it is a country of bad moral behaviour, and 66 per cent saying parents allow their children too much freedom.

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Why not just anaesthetise passengers for the entire flight? They'll take up less space lying down, you don't need to provide a meal or inflight movie, and there's no way that they're going to get bored when they're asleep.

It also means that the most a terrorist can do to disrupt the flight is snore loudly.

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They don't hate everyone. Just those who they feel are responsible for allowing infidels to occupy their holy land and attack their brothers.

What drives them is their religious leaders. What drives the religious leaders is the same thing that drives all religious leaders: Power.

If only the individual terrorists truly understood what pawns they were.

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Its not just their religious leaders, its their leaders in general. The heads of pretty much all middle eastern countries disgust me. There is not a decent individual in that mix. Maybe, MAYBE the King of Jordan, and the President of Afghanistan (errr, Mayor of Kabul). Nothing is every done in the interest of the people.

However, these people have very real issues, and beating them over the head with Democracy is not going to solve their problems. We're constantly being told that they hate our freedom and all this nonsense. I honestly don't believe that is true. The taliban and a few other misguided assholes have massively distorted the image of muslims around the world. These people don't hate our freedom and a Caliphate from Spain to Indonesia is not exactly the number one concern at this point. But constantly saying that this is what we're fighting is a great scare tactic and makes for good copy.

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Excellent post, I agree. I don't know a "muslim" government that isn't corrupt or abusive of human rights, there is no exemplar muslim regime that can be upheld as a model for others to follow.

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How about Indonesia? It's the world's largest muslim country, and allows religious freedom. They've also gone a long way on fighting corruption since the excesses of Sukarno.

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The wife and kids are supposed to be off to the Algarve tomorrow from Stansted. BAA site says check with your airline re delays/cancellations, EasyJet site makes no mention of anything at all...

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I don't know a "muslim" government that isn't corrupt or abusive of human rights,

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From the news coverage it sounds like it is only Heathrow now that is suffering cancellations.

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I don't know a "muslim" government that isn't corrupt or abusive of human rights,

It's unfortunate to hear that phrase, and think about how my own government doesn't stand up to those same measures, either.

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It's unfortunate to hear that phrase, and think about how my own government doesn't stand up to those same measures, either.

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If you lived under a Muslim government, you would realize that there is no comparison between the two types of corruption and human rights abuse.

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So in a few years when these ethanol fuel cells are common place in our laptops.... are we going to be allowed to use them on an aircraft? The first reports (months back) said "yes" but now I'm not so sure!

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The dimensions of this item must not exceed: a maximum length of 45 cm, width of 35 cm and depth of 16 cm (including wheels, handles, side pockets etc.).

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So in a few years when these ethanol fuel cells are common place in our laptops.... are we going to be allowed to use them on an aircraft? The first reports (months back) said "yes" but now I'm not so sure!

There has been talk about 'restricting' (whatever they mean by that) laptops on flights for some time. There is an article in the Wall Street Journal about that today. It starts by describing the incident prior to Lufthansa 435 when a laptop caught fire before it started taxiing.

Apparently there has been 'documented 339 cases of lithium and lithium-ion batteries for portable electronics overheating, emitting smoke and fumes or exploding since 2003'. On top of that, the FAA has documented 60 incidents since 1991.

We might not have to wait for the ethanol fuel cells to have our laptops banned

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Each passenger is permitted to carry ONE item of cabin baggage

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there isn't a real theocratic structure in Islam the way there is in Christianity/Judaism

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Apparently there has been 'documented 339 cases of lithium and lithium-ion batteries for portable electronics overheating, emitting smoke and fumes or exploding since 2003'. On top of that, the FAA has documented 60 incidents since 1991.

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Apparently there has been 'documented 339 cases of lithium and lithium-ion batteries for portable electronics overheating, emitting smoke and fumes or exploding since 2003'. On top of that, the FAA has documented 60 incidents since 1991.

If you ask me, I'd rather have that happen in the cabin where a fire extinguisher could quickly be brought to bear upon the problem, instead of in the hold where it could burn out of control.

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It's pretty obvious where this is leading to -- notebook batteries will be banned from carry-on, but not the computer itself.

The company I am working for recently asked us to ship laptops with the battery removed due to one of our laptops catching fire during shipment by air. The shipping company wasn't too happy about that.