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#261249 - 26/07/2005 18:38 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: oliver]
mrfixit
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Registered: 14/06/2002
Posts: 337
Ok maybe I am missing somthing but how do you use the ethernet upgrader? I read another post about it but I still can't figure out how to use it on windowz.
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#261250 - 26/07/2005 18:41 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: mrfixit]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I couldn't figure it out either
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#261251 - 26/07/2005 20:50 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: msaeger]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Under linux I get an incorrect argument error. So I gave up and upgraded in the usual way.
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#261252 - 27/07/2005 00:48 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: andym]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
I installed the latest cygwin distro (took maybe 5 minutes to download and setup everything from the wizard)

Then I copied the upgrader-cygwin.exe into the c:\cygwin\home\oliver folder, opened up the bash terminal, and ran chmod 777 upgrader-cygwin.exe

I then copied the ncftpput.exe into the c:\cygwin\bin directory, and chmod 777 /bin/ncftpput.exe

Then I ran the upgrader with ./upgrader-cygwin.exe 192.168.0.101 "/home/oliver/car2-developer-v3.00-alpha11.upgrade" and everything worked perfectly (well almost, see above post)

After that completed, I also installed the latest hijack with the ncftpput.exe application, and it's really fast!

One thought I had today during my lunch break, was the upgrader is really the simplest program thanks to the lord. It would be really nice if we could figure out a way to integrate it directly into hijack's web interface. I envision a simple textbox with the familiar Browse for file button and you select the .upgrade file. Clicking submit would upload it to the empeg which would gunzip the file, and put everything in the correct place. This would allow us to upgrade our beloved empegs from any network connection without having to setup any software on the computers attached to that network. Thoughts on this? Also, I may be greatly underestimating what the upgrader actually does, but from what I can tell (without looking at the source yet), it seems pretty simple if hijack is already installed. Also, if the upgrader is really as simple as it seems, I already have a great gunzip class for .net, and the FTP class is simple, So if this can't be added into hijack for memory/overhead issues, I'm going to attempt to create a simple .net console app which would mimic the upgrader but not requiring the cygwin install (but it would only run on windows, maybe linux with mono)


Edited by oliver (27/07/2005 00:52)
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#261253 - 27/07/2005 02:22 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release - Using Emplode 2.0 [Re: oliver]
jarredduq
journeyman

Registered: 27/09/2000
Posts: 89
Loc: California, USA
What are the issues using Emplode 2.0 with v3.0a11 Car Player, because Emplode 2.10 is very unstable. 2.0 seems to work okay.

Please advise.....

P.S. Thanks for the new release!!!!!!

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#261254 - 27/07/2005 03:15 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release - Using Emplode 2.0 [Re: jarredduq]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
I don't think there are any major issues, the only thing i can recall 2.10 added was flac/ogg file handling. I don't use either on my empeg so i've always stuck with 2.0 for all my syncing needs.
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#261255 - 27/07/2005 07:41 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release - Using Emplode 2.0 [Re: jarredduq]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
What are the issues using Emplode 2.0 with v3.0a11 Car Player, because Emplode 2.10 is very unstable. 2.0 seems to work okay.

2.0 will get non-ASCII characters wrong, but if you don't have any music containing accented characters, that might be OK.

Peter

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#261256 - 27/07/2005 16:45 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: mlord]
Memil
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Registered: 03/02/2002
Posts: 101
Loc: Sweden
Just a little tip for your upgrading pleasure with Marks upgrade-program, version 3.1.8 of ncftp (on gentoo at least) seems broken. Just install version 3.1.9 and it works like a charm.

/Fredrik

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#261257 - 27/07/2005 17:01 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Memil]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Quote:
Just a little tip for your upgrading pleasure with Marks upgrade-program, version 3.1.8 of ncftp (on gentoo at least) seems broken. Just install version 3.1.9 and it works like a charm.

/Fredrik


Code:

emerge -pv ncftp

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] net-ftp/ncftp-3.1.8-r1 +ipv6 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB



That explains it.
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#261258 - 28/07/2005 01:38 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Has anyone been able to install hijack using tony's logo edit program ?

I get the error couldn't find product ID ?

I am pretty sure my serial port it working correctly since I used it to install 3.11
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#261259 - 28/07/2005 01:47 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Just by chance, did you happen to try this?:

- pull the power from the empeg.

- run logoedit.

- start the kernel flash procedure.

- do not apply power to the empeg until the screen prompts you to do so.
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#261260 - 28/07/2005 02:05 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: msaeger]
webroach
old hand

Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
I had no problems installing HiJack over serial using the LogoEdit program, at least not beyond my own goof-up. Just a thought, but do you have the right COM port selected? I didn't at first, and the install errored out, leading me to discover my mistake.
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#261261 - 28/07/2005 02:08 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Yep it gives the same error whether I plug it in when prompted or before running logoedit.
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#261262 - 28/07/2005 03:10 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: peter]
g_man
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 9
Loc: California, US
Can't wait to give it a shot. Thanks for all the continued work.
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#261263 - 28/07/2005 03:14 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: webroach]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Yes I believe I do it does find the player and then I get the couldn't find product id error. This motherboard only has one serial port and I used it to apply the 3.11 upgrade.
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#261264 - 28/07/2005 17:17 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: msaeger]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
I've had the quietest drive home in a long while. I went out to get petrol and as I arrived at the garage the empeg was playing happily. Once I'd filled up and set off I noticed the music hadn't started. On closer inspection the player software had locked. No response to button presses but it would reboot via Hijack so I knew it wasn't completely screwed. Upon reboot it locked in exactly the same place. A quick look at Vitals revealed a load average of 10+.... not good, it looks like the player was stuck in a loop somewhere. Once I got home I had to player -i it back to good health. I just thought it was worthy of mention because it the latest in a long line of crashes since I put a11 on. The track I was playing is okay because I played it last week under a10 without issue.

It's a shame there isn't a hijack option to start the player with -i in case it happens again. I'd hate to have to drive a long distance and have it happen again.

Needless to say I think I'm going to put a10 back on.
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#261265 - 28/07/2005 18:24 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: andym]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
When you insert it, while it's booting, just keep hitting the "right" button on the player. If you manage to fast forward to the next song before whatever it is it's cranky about wedges it again, you're golden. If not, boot again.

I think every 3 alpha has done this for me.

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#261266 - 28/07/2005 18:37 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Daria]
ninti
old hand

Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
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When you insert it, while it's booting, just keep hitting the "right" button on the player. If you manage to fast forward to the next song before whatever it is it's cranky about wedges it again, you're golden. If not, boot again.


Ditto. There is a tiny window there to skip to the next song without it getting rehosed, and sometimes I have to reboot it a couple of time before I catch it. And it does appear to be random which song it happens on. Only once have I had to -i the player to get it working again.
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#261267 - 28/07/2005 19:18 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: ninti]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Hopefully it won't happen again but I'll certainly give it a try.
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#261268 - 28/07/2005 22:31 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
So is there some other way to install hijack with windows ?
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#261269 - 29/07/2005 09:44 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: andym]
Shonky
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I had exactly the same problem as Andy M. I fixed it (after a bit of swearing since I was just about to drive home from work) by pressing the right key very quickly while booting to skip to the next track. I went back to the "dud" track and it played fine (as it always did).

I didn't think to look at the load averages though.

Has only happened once so far.
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#261270 - 29/07/2005 09:55 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Shonky]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Question: when this kind of thing happens, are you using any signal processing (voladjust, crossfade, etc.) that might be involved with the way a specific, intermittently bad, track is being handled?
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#261271 - 29/07/2005 10:00 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: pgrzelak]
Shonky
pooh-bah

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Voladjust would have been on low (hijack version not player version)
Crossfade off
EQ using my recently set up AutoEQ
Playlist was short (maybe 100 tracks - all Van Halen )
Using hijack's "Visual Restore" feature
No 3rd party apps
32MB RAM (stacked method but 100% reliable so far)

Can't think of much else to happen at boot time. The hang happened immediately. No sound at all - not even a little blip and I've run 3.00alpha7/8 ever since they came out without ever seeing the problem.
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#261272 - 29/07/2005 11:37 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: pgrzelak]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Quote:
Question: when this kind of thing happens, are you using any signal processing (voladjust, crossfade, etc.) that might be involved with the way a specific, intermittently bad, track is being handled?


I don't have anything interesting enabled, no.

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#261273 - 29/07/2005 13:28 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: Daria]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
Seems happily stable on my machine...so, I might try and go for the autoEQ thing now.

I have a question - anyone in the UK got the mic already and could loan it to me for a week? If not, I'll try and find one of the ones mentioned in the earlier autoEQ thread...
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#261274 - 29/07/2005 13:58 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: frog51]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
Yeah, I've experienced this with all the v3alphas. I haven't had one yet that I couln't fast forward past if the timing wasn't right.

Can also confirm that the tracks involved played normally if played again.
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#261275 - 29/07/2005 14:05 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: frog51]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
I have a maplins mic it cost all of 2 quid I think. However I'd still discourage using autoeq unless you're absolutely desperate. I blew a tweeter in the clio because of all the clicks/pops/square waves the thing was putting out. Even a sucessful run left me with a high-pitched whining noise that only went away with a power off reboot.

That said, have fun!
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#261276 - 29/07/2005 14:51 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: andym]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
AHhhh - maybe I'll just tweak manually, starting from Brad's figures (well, it is a Scooby so may be close)

Cheers Andy

Rory

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#261277 - 29/07/2005 15:59 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: frog51]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
Posts: 531
Loc: Triangle, VA
Ive had great results following Brad B.'s write up on doing the EQ.. Though I think I ended up doing my calculations backwards on accident and it sounded better and kept that...
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#261278 - 31/07/2005 19:47 Re: Car-player v3.00, eleventh alpha release [Re: SonicSnoop]
furtive
old hand

Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
Ok, I currently run V2.00 on my empeg. Is there any reason I shouldn't upgrade to this alpha release?
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