#259603 - 02/07/2005 03:48
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I will likely be glued to the TV tomorrow watching coverage of the Live 8 concerts. Anyone else? Anyone actually going to any of the shows? If the lineup for Philadelphia wasn't so awful, I'd totally be there, but somehow, Will Smith and Bon Jovi just don't seem worth driving 5 hours for...
Anyway, the lineup in London is obviously phenomenal, but the one that I'm really eager to see is the Pink Floyd "well, it's not really a reunion" reunion. I've read all sorts of stories, from "we're just doing this for Bob," to "the hatchet is buried, we're a big happy family again," so who knows if anything will come of this in the future. Heck, until the last chord is played, I'm pretty skeptical that all four of them will show up... Nonetheless, it's cool that an event like this has at least for the time being brought them together for the first time in 20+ years.
So, what's everyone else looking forward to seeing?
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#259605 - 02/07/2005 04:18
Re: Live 8
[Re: bonzi]
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According to this: http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/history4.htmlThey last all played together live in 1993, so not quite 20 years yet.
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#259606 - 02/07/2005 04:26
Re: Live 8
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Phew, just 12! 
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#259607 - 02/07/2005 05:31
Re: Live 8
[Re: bonzi]
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Like I'm sure many of you did, I text for tickets and was disappointed not to get any. I just have to console myself with V at Stafford in August and U2 a couple of weeks ago down in Twickenham.
I dealt with an online shop for the U2 tickets which was a complete farce. I had to end up getting the tickets from the ground on the day. They claimed all the standing tickets had been stolen so they upgraded us to a hospitality box at the back of the ground. Free buffet but NO BEER! This did eventually get sorted out but not until the concert had started and so marred proceedings a little.
I'm not an avid U2 fan but they but on an excellent show.
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#259608 - 02/07/2005 06:04
Re: Live 8
[Re: andy]
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They last all played together live in 1993, so not quite 20 years yet.
Strange, as I was on the consert they had in Oslo summer 1994...
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#259609 - 02/07/2005 06:19
Re: Live 8
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They last all played together live in 1993, so not quite 20 years yet.
Strange, as I was on the consert they had in Oslo summer 1994...
Stig
I think the important distinction that's being lost here is that the "all" referred to upthread is the lineup including Roger Waters, which definitely hasn't played together in over 20 years.
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#259610 - 02/07/2005 07:38
Re: Live 8
[Re: adavidw]
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Not wishing to sound like a miserable git I'm letting the myth box record it, and i'll watch it later so I can ff past the boring bits.
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#259611 - 02/07/2005 08:40
Re: Live 8
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Registered: 16/04/2002
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Too Right! Although Sky+ in my case!
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#259612 - 02/07/2005 08:54
Re: Live 8
[Re: boxer]
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Code:
Sat Jul 2, 2005
1 Live 8 2 - BBC TWO Sat Jul 2, 2005 (01:00 PM) 3 hrs 25 mins
2 Live 8 1 - BBC ONE Sat Jul 2, 2005 (04:15 PM) 5 hrs 25 mins
1 Live 8 on THREE 7 - BBC THREE Sat Jul 2, 2005 (07:00 PM) 5 hrs 5 mins
2 Live 8 US 1 - BBC ONE Sat Jul 2, 2005 (09:50 PM) 5 hrs 50 mins
Sun Jul 3, 2005
1 Live 8 on THREE 7 - BBC THREE Sun Jul 3, 2005 (12:00 AM) 3 hrs 5 mins
That should do it....
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#259613 - 02/07/2005 10:17
Re: Live 8
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I'm not an avid U2 fan but they but on an excellent show.
My boss went to the Cardiff show this week, said it was very good value - something like 4 hours in total.
Funnily enough he will be seeing it twice - he was given these at the last minute but had already got tickets for the October MSG show and asked me if I wanted to go  (not U2, just NY which should be fun, never been before)
Gareth
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#259615 - 02/07/2005 13:48
Re: Live 8
[Re: andy]
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According to this:
http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/history4.html
They last all played together live in 1993, so not quite 20 years yet.
The 1993 album and shows most emphatically did not include Roger Waters. Neither did the 1986-1990 period.
And when Roger Waters did a "Wall" show at the Berlin wall, those did not include David Gilmour.
I would, however, like to see documentation on any other possible points in time that Roger and David may have played together since Final Cut. But I was under the impression that there haven't been any. Thus the reason the Live 8 thing is a Big Deal for Pink Floyd fans.
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#259616 - 02/07/2005 17:57
Re: Live 8
[Re: tfabris]
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Ah, I see! (Obviously, I am not that much of a fan; I just noticed that I have Pink Floyd listed as the author of "Amused to Death", rather than Waters  ) I suppose that expecting Syd Barret would be too much (he isstill alive, isn't he?)...
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#259617 - 02/07/2005 18:17
Re: Live 8
[Re: bonzi]
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I suppose that expecting Syd Barret would be too much (he is still alive, isn't he?)...
For some undetermined value of "alive," yes. Then again, there are those that would argue that Keith Richards is also alive...
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#259618 - 02/07/2005 19:53
Re: Live 8
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Registered: 16/04/2002
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Pink who?
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#259619 - 02/07/2005 20:45
Re: Live 8
[Re: boxer]
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Isn't he in the scissor sisters?
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#259620 - 02/07/2005 20:47
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[Re: bonzi]
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I suppose that expecting Syd Barret would be too much (he isstill alive, isn't he?)...
..and living somewhere around here (Cambridge) by all accounts.
Rob
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#259621 - 03/07/2005 06:27
Re: Live 8
[Re: andym]
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I had set my receiver to record the whole show, but I had obviously not cleared enough space because it stopped just before Pink Floyd and when I noticed it had stopped, they were midway through Comfortably numb....  ARRGHH! So, Andy, would it be possbile to get the Pink Floyd part from you in some way? Stig
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#259623 - 03/07/2005 06:57
Re: Live 8
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I suppose that expecting Syd Barret would be too much (he isstill alive, isn't he?)...
..and living somewhere around here (Cambridge) by all accounts.
Yeah, you used to see him wandering around town all the time, quite sad really.
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#259624 - 03/07/2005 08:39
Re: Live 8
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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If anyone is interested I should be able to supply an MPEG2 PS file, or an MPEG4 cut just of the floyd in action. We watched/listened to it last night on analogue TV which, in this country is probably the best way to watch it.
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#259625 - 03/07/2005 11:00
Re: Live 8
[Re: andym]
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I watched the clip that l0ser linked to. The sound wasn't too bad (according to my ears...), but the picture was a bit low quality.
Andy, I'd like a copy at least of the Pink Floyd cut, is possible..
Stig
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#259626 - 03/07/2005 12:51
Re: Live 8
[Re: StigOE]
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Let me have a play with bitrates and I'll get back to you.
EDIT: Actually, you're going to Amersfoort aren't you? I could probably make a high quality version and burn it onto a disc.
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#259627 - 03/07/2005 13:05
Re: Live 8
[Re: andym]
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Yes, I'm going to Amersfoort, so if you burn a disc, that would be excellent. Or if you're bringing a laptop, we could transfer it some other way...
Stig
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#259628 - 03/07/2005 13:08
Re: Live 8
[Re: StigOE]
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I also have a strange suspicion that the "limited edition" / "special edition" DVD "collector set" will be available in the shops very soon.
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#259629 - 03/07/2005 13:15
Re: Live 8
[Re: andym]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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We watched/listened to it last night on analogue TV which, in this country is probably the best way to watch it.
Who on earth at the beeb came up with the idea, faced with two programmes of uncertain length, live8 and Wimbledon, to swap them between one channel and another in the middle: Should have been 4.15, eventually happened at 6.15, I was watching bits of it on Sky, whose people obviously had no idea what was going on. I have odd bits between REM and UB40, unless that was Annie Lennox serving at Wimbledon, and nothing after the middle of Mariah Carey.
Mrs. Boxer being the persevering type, won two tickets, the boxette coulsn't go, so she gave them to two old school friends who phoned us mid evening absolutely hysterical with the excitement of it all.
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#259630 - 03/07/2005 13:31
Re: Live 8
[Re: boxer]
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Being a program scheduler is a unenviable task, for every person who thinks you've made the right choice there's someone else that thinks you're wrong.
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#259631 - 03/07/2005 14:12
Re: Live 8
[Re: andym]
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Registered: 16/04/2002
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Loc: Yorkshire UK
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Being a program scheduler is a unenviable task
Somewhere in Monty Python, John Cleese casts aspersions on the role!, but I have the complete MP on VHS, so finding it would be a long job.
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#259632 - 03/07/2005 14:45
Re: Live 8
[Re: andym]
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
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If anyone is interested I should be able to supply an MPEG2 PS file,
Ooo ooo me me me. I was tempted to try to come up with tickets and fly just for this, but my travel luck has been poor recently, plus I'm trying to be less fiscally imprudent.
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#259633 - 03/07/2005 14:50
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[Re: Daria]
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Just the floyd? Should be able to stick that on a CD/DVD. It'll take a while to upload otherwise.
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#259634 - 03/07/2005 14:53
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[Re: andym]
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Loc: Providence, RI
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Just the floyd? Should be able to stick that on a CD/DVD. It'll take a while to upload otherwise.
Was hoping for more but I'll take what you can offer. I'm happy enough to get any chance seeing as I spaced yesterday. Well, that and biked 25 miles and went to a picnic.
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#259635 - 03/07/2005 15:11
Re: Live 8
[Re: pgrzelak]
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I also have a strange suspicion that the "limited edition" / "special edition" DVD "collector set" will be available in the shops very soon.
Yes, in November I believe.
Looks like the Pink Floyd performances (and others) are available here:
http://mininova.org/search/?search=live8
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#259636 - 03/07/2005 19:49
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[Re: andy]
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Hmm, seems the Mythbox had a bit of a hard time. I appear to only have 2 20G files instead of the 5 or 6 4 or 5G files. It looks like it's stuck some stuff together, I'm not really surprised, asking it record several programs all with the same/similar names with overlapping times on multiple channels, something I've certainly never asked it do before.
I've located the Pink Floyd and The Who's performances, so I can make copies of those sections. Anything else is going to be a multiple DVD+/-R job.
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#259637 - 03/07/2005 20:35
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If anyone is interested I should be able to supply an MPEG2 PS file
Would that be a DVB-S recording?
Pim
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#259638 - 03/07/2005 23:32
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I also have a strange suspicion that the "limited edition" / "special edition" DVD "collector set" will be available in the shops very soon.
Yes, in November I believe.
Looks like the Pink Floyd performances (and others) are available here:
http://mininova.org/search/?search=live8
The U2 performance is going to take 30 hours, which is better than the REM performance... that tracker isn't even up.
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#259639 - 04/07/2005 02:19
Re: Live 8
[Re: pim]
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Would that be a DVB-S recording?
Andy has DVB-T, not DVB-S.
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#259640 - 04/07/2005 16:29
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This blog entry pretty much sums up my opinion of the MTV coverage of Live 8: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ericzorn/weblog/archives/2005/07/i_dont_want_my.htmlWhat utter garbage. The miracle of BitTorrent is the only thing keeping me from burning down the MTV headquarters. In regards to the Pink Floyd show, I was very impressed. It was great to see my favorite band back in the configuration they were last in long before they were my favorite band. Sadly, they've ruled out a future reunion, saying they're "too old." I dunno, maybe they are, but that hasn't stopped other way-past-their-prime acts from hitting the road. Sure, there's no guarantee that the shows would be as good as the Live8 performance, and it's not like they need the money... But it was really great to hear them all together again, and it'd be nice if they could do one more tour with the canonical lineup, even if they have to do it with wheelchairs and walkers.
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#259641 - 04/07/2005 18:10
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[Re: andy]
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If anyone's interested, I can bring a complete(*) recording on a
USB disk, 25 GB big. It's a raw uncut recording made on a
Hauppauge Nexus-S card, filtered through pvastrumento.
It's best played using a DVD player program.
Pim
(*) just a couple of seconds missing from the begin, and
a hiccup when the broadcast switched from BBC 2 to BBC 1.
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#259642 - 04/07/2005 18:42
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I have plenty of space left on my usb disk, so please do (if the quality is resonably good and I can play it with a normal media player program)...
Stig
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#259643 - 04/07/2005 20:39
Re: Live 8
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TBH, Pim's DVB-S stream will be of a slightly higher quality as the BBC satellite channels are statmuxed at a higher average rate than the DVB-T streams. I'll by all means bring my files with me as probably just bring my HD enclosure along for the trip.
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#259644 - 05/07/2005 08:19
Re: Live 8
[Re: pim]
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If anyone's interested, I can bring a complete(*) recording on a
USB disk
I'm interested: I'll bring my laptop, which has plenty of space.
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#259645 - 05/07/2005 09:04
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[Re: Roger]
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Me too, If I may, I'll bring my lqptop and USB drive.
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#259646 - 06/07/2005 07:19
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AOL also have free streaming of the London, Philly and Toronto gigs (complete with handy links direct to the individual Pink Floyd numbers): http://music.channel.aol.com/live_8_concert/london_philly_torontoIt uses their own ActiveX based player, so not much hope of saving the stream or working on anything but Windows I guess ? I didn't see Pink Floyd live on the day, they have still got it haven't they 
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#259647 - 07/07/2005 12:46
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In case anyone wants to know, these are the specs
video:
mpeg2 ps
resolution 720 x 576
aspect ratio 16:9
frame rate 25 fps
nominal bitrate 8 mbps
average bitrate +4 mbps
audio:
mpeg1, layer2
stereo 48 kHz
bitrate 256 kbps
I'm not sure for BBC channels, but I do know Dutch DVB-T streams
have a lower resolution as well as a lower bitrate than their DVB-S
counterparts.
I have my USB disk ready. It's NTFS formatted. The files will not fit on
FAT filesystems, including FAT32.
Pim
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#259648 - 07/07/2005 13:07
Re: Live 8
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Loc: London, UK
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I have my USB disk ready. It's NTFS formatted.
I'll have to bring a USB disk with me -- my laptop's at work, and I can't get to it, given the events in London today. Hopefully I can prevail on someone to do a disk-to-disk transfer for me?
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#259649 - 08/07/2005 18:36
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(Was that nice concert with fantastic lighting somewhere in Italy realy more than 20 years ago? Sigh... 
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