#247605 - 30/01/2005 18:00
Re: ipod emulation
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I don't think the functionality is limited at all. If it was, I think it would be mentioned on this site. Do you know that site already ? If not, go have a look, there's lots of interesting info to be found there! (and it's Dutch !  )
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#247606 - 30/01/2005 18:16
Re: ipod emulation
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Hmm, it says "track informatie, niet alle modellen".
Can't find any details on which models do and which don't.
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#247607 - 30/01/2005 18:27
Re: ipod emulation
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carpal tunnel
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mailtje sturen ?
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#247608 - 30/01/2005 21:00
Re: ipod emulation
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On this page it says ice>Link Plus zorgt ervoor dat op sommige radio´s zelfs het nummer en artiest informatie (track informatie) getoond wordt op het display van de radio. Natuurlijk blijft deze informatie ook zichtbaar op uw iPod. Dension werkt er constant aan om het aantal radio’s waarbij dit mogelijk is uit te breiden (momenteel werkt deze functie alleen op Kenwood, Grundig en Alpine radio's). For our non-Dutch speaking audience: it says track information is only displayed on Kenwood, Grundig and Alpine radio's. Pim
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#247609 - 02/02/2005 23:10
Re: ipod emulation
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Here is a not so good review of the Dension ice>Link Plus in an Alfa 147. If you can't read Italian, then read the English translation. Pim
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#247610 - 02/03/2005 22:29
Re: ipod emulation
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It looks like Alfa's iPod integration solution is coming nearer: http://ginevra.ogilvy.it/ Pim
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#247611 - 19/04/2005 16:34
Re: ipod emulation
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Alfa Romeo's iPod integration solution is now announced at both the italian and the global Alfa websites. And here are some pictures taken at a trade show in Rimini. What scares me is that none of the pictures show song info on either the radio display or the dashboard display. If this is is not possible, than there is no added value to this solution compared to the ice>Link. And it would be really silly; if the iPod is hidden, and you can't see song info or playlists on the radio or dashboard, then there's nowhere to see them. Pim
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#247612 - 19/04/2005 16:44
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Well, it says you can display and control it from the dash.
How much do you want to bet, though, that the pocket it sits in is just a standard dash pocket with a cable hanging out. No cradling, per se, but, rather, just the same tacky cable that everyone else has.
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#247613 - 19/04/2005 16:58
Re: ipod emulation
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It is a custom pocket alright. Standard models have a holder for coffeecups and coins there.
What I will be needing is this dual din adapter
and the electronics from the iPod Pack, so I can put my Empeg
there instead of an iPod.
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#247614 - 19/04/2005 17:08
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What scares me is that none of the pictures show song info on either the radio display
or the dashboard display. If this is is not possible, than there is no added value to this
solution compared to the ice>Link.
If the display of the iPod is not copied in some way, then the iPod is used for nothing more than a dumb big "cd-changer". Not good. OTOH, maybe that adapter could then be hacked, and be used to connect an Empeg to the standard HU.
Just a thought.
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#247615 - 19/04/2005 17:16
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Yes, that was the original idea. If I can use Alfa's adapter to control
the Empeg, I won't be needing feedback. After all, the Empeg will
be in the dash showing what it is playing.
But I'm already thinking ahead; if you could really hide the iPod and
see what is going on, you could also hide the iPod-emulating-Empeg,
or replace it with something custom built for this purpose (a Mini-ITX
box or something).
Just like you, my ultimate goal would be to have a stealth install.
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#247616 - 19/04/2005 17:58
Re: ipod emulation
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But I'm already thinking ahead; if you could really hide the iPod and
see what is going on, you could also hide the iPod-emulating-Empeg,
or replace it with something custom built for this purpose (a Mini-ITX
box or something).
Just like you, my ultimate goal would be to have a stealth install.
What would be really cool is to install the Empeg a bit deeper inside the dash and then make a cover that looks exactly like the normal card- and cupholder, but that can be flipped open (with a hinge on the bottom or something like that), or simply attached to the Empeg's front. Instant stealth setup...
And what do you mean, use a Mini-ITX box? A car PC could never have the same funtionality as the Empeg! (not without a whole lot of work anyway...)
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#247617 - 19/04/2005 22:16
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And what do you mean, use a Mini-ITX box? A car PC could never have the same funtionality as the Empeg!
Don't want to sound to blasphemous here, but if the car manufacturer's iPod
control user interface is really good, you won't need the Empeg's display and
its user interface. And if you don't need that, it will be a lot easier to come with
a replacement, since it can be headless.
Automotive computer hardware is becoming practical and affordable. I really
like the VoomPC enclosure, the M1-ATX power supply and Pentium M/Celeron M
Mini-ITX motherboards like the DFI G5M100-N.
For software, I'm looking at MPD. This is a audio player that is designed as a
daemon, allowing to be controlled by many different clients. Once running,
it keeps running even without clients connected. It even remembers states
across reboots. It's very easy to write your own client using whatever platform.
There's even this nice PDA client. It wouldn;t be too hard to write an MPD
client that emulates the iPod serial interface.
MPD doesn't do everything the Empeg can, but it is approaching its
capabilities. It supports WAV, MP3, OGG, FLAC and AAC (even with
DRM), has crossfade, hierarchical playlists (not nested, though),
search functions and automatic gain. What is missing is cache and disk
spin control, but this could be done by a client, without changing MPD itself.
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#247618 - 20/04/2005 00:13
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I use MPD on my home jukebox setup. Works great!
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