#239771 - 02/11/2004 22:59
Re: Scary image for U.S. citizens...
[Re: oliver]
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Ok, I had to ask. What is wrong with a simple voting paper and a pen. It seems to work over here 
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#239772 - 02/11/2004 22:59
Re: Scary image for U.S. citizens...
[Re: oliver]
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Happy Birthday. I hope you get the President of your choice... (as long as it's Kerry. )
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#239773 - 03/11/2004 00:12
Re: Scary image for U.S. citizens...
[Re: genixia]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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I've mysteriously disappeared from the registered voter list, even though I've been registered to vote at that address for years. Me,and a few other people.
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#239774 - 03/11/2004 00:13
Re: Scary image for U.S. citizens...
[Re: Heather]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Did you get to vote?
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#239775 - 03/11/2004 00:16
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[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Yeah, paper ballot, like they'll actually count it. So I wrote in for Larry Flint. I live in NY, it's not like it's gonna change anything.
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#239776 - 03/11/2004 00:19
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[Re: Heather]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Did you spell it right on the ballot?
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#239778 - 04/11/2004 07:11
Re: Scary image for U.S. citizens...
[Re: oliver]
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
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Ok, I had to ask. What is wrong with a simple voting paper and a pen. It seems to work over here
Well, it depends on which type of pen and paper.
Last time I voted in Canada, it was with a pencil, supplied by the polling station, and paper. Votes are counted by hand. It's simple, it may be slow, but it works. The voting systems here in the US baffle me, having used two different systems in two different elections, and I'm willing to bet there'll be a third system used for the next election, although if I move to a different precinct, it may be the same as one of the systems I've already used. Like... wtf? God help me, if I ever have to use one of those lever thingies. <tinfoilhat>Why does the US make it so difficult to vote?</tinfoilhat>
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#239779 - 04/11/2004 11:38
Re: Scary image for U.S. citizens...
[Re: canuckInOR]
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Registered: 25/04/2000
Posts: 1522
Loc: Arizona
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<tinfoilhat>Why does the US make it so difficult to vote?</tinfoilhat>
Try absentee ballot next time. Its simple, really hard to screw up, and you can take your time doing it (which means you can read and study all the propositions rather than worrying about the 3hr long line behind you).
Most of the people here vote that way (of course, we travel a ton also). Assuming they are all counted ( ) it is the best way.
- Tim
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#239780 - 04/11/2004 15:08
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[Re: canuckInOR]
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
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Like... wtf? God help me, if I ever have to use one of those lever thingies.
I think I remember my parents using those things when we went to the polling places when I was little. This is odd, because it seems to me that we were also ahead of the game in terms of electronic voting. I want to say we've had it in some form or another for the last 8 years or more.
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#239781 - 04/11/2004 15:12
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[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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What's wrong with the lever machine. There's a label with each candidate's name and a lever below it. You flip the lever to select the candidate. Simple. Even better, if you screw up, you flip the lever back, since nothing takes effect until you open the curtain with the big lever, instead of having to ask for a new ballot.
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#239782 - 04/11/2004 15:44
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[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 770
Loc: Washington, DC metro
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What's wrong with the lever machine. There's a label with each candidate's name and a lever below it. You flip the lever to select the candidate. Simple. Even better, if you screw up, you flip the lever back, since nothing takes effect until you open the curtain with the big lever, instead of having to ask for a new ballot.
They're prone to jamming. Once upon a time, in the Helms/Gantt Senate race, Durham was using them. They had to keep the polls open way late (10:00 or 11:00) because they were jamming all over town. Something to do with voting split tickets and an independent county commissioner.
Due to the visibility of the race, it got a lot of national air play.
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#239783 - 04/11/2004 16:01
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[Re: jmwking]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Hmm. That was just before I could vote. Otherwise, I'd have voted against Helms. I remember convincing other people to vote against him.
Anyway, I don't remember that, but I believe you. Sounds like bad maintenance to me.
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#239784 - 04/11/2004 16:03
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[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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I have used those machines before. I think they were all mechanical, making punched cards and having a total computed. Not a bad system, but parts and maintenance were nightmares.
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#239785 - 04/11/2004 16:47
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[Re: pgrzelak]
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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I LOVE those big mechanical booths. I used to beg my mom to let me go with her when she'd vote so i could pull the levers. It felt substantial. It felt like you were DOING something with every satisfying clunk. And when you exited the polling guy would pull that big lever and *CLANK*, your vote was registered. I think I've seen a comedian do a bit about that exact feeling. Hm. Anyhow, now just drawing a line or filling in a circle doesn't resonate the same.
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#239786 - 04/11/2004 17:08
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[Re: loren]
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Guess what kind of booth I voted in on Tuesday?
Did I mention there was no line?
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#239787 - 04/11/2004 19:09
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[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 24/07/2003
Posts: 500
Loc: Colorado, N.A.
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Funny you should mention Helms and his various challengers over the years. I had been convinced for months that Bush would win easily, and people were thinking I was nuts. I had to patiently explain how the pollsters back in N.C. always showed Helms' challengers neck-and-neck with him, and he always managed to win easily -- BECAUSE PEOPLE FREAKIN' LIE. Same as on J.D. Power surveys.
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All polling and surveys are a complete joke. It's like calling the metoerology of weather-forecasting a hard "science."
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