#229734 - 23/08/2004 17:44
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Ok I have another question and Ill try not to ask any more for a whille..  I can run emphatic at home ac just fine, but as soon as i go into my car and go to hijack and select it to start it it locks my player up and i have to pull it out of the sled and back in to restart it. and even with it in the background not doing anything then my songs studder every min or so. But i dont have this issue at home. very odd. Also is it possible to add a entry in the menu to get to the hijack menu with out hiding emphatic? or would I have to hide it in order for it to have the screens focus? Thanks! 
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#229735 - 23/08/2004 18:13
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: SonicSnoop]
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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What version of emphatic? Problems in car/DC mode were fixed in emphatic 2.03 (and are clearly documented earlier in this thread.) If you're not on 2.04 or higher please upgrade. If you are, then post your config.ini here so I can see what's happening.
As for the Hijack menu, I've asked mlord for a way to invoke the Hijack menu from within applications, and he says it's not doable.
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#229736 - 24/08/2004 08:47
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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I have 2.04 installed. Ill post my config.ini tonight when I get home. Just to be sure I may download it again and reinstall it and try again.
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#229737 - 25/08/2004 01:36
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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My first question in a new line of questioning... Why does it always do the weird menu pop-up flippy things on start-up? Does it always default to Cool track? How can I stop the title from going away in this code? I tried transient="false" but that didn't work, sorry if I'm being stupid.  <display_mode name="Transient w/ Time" visual="Funnelweb"> <!-- Just to demonstrate transient fields and the time attribute --> <line attr="$(artist): $(title) $(source:format=\($\))" font="gimungous" color="bright" bgcolor="transparent" x="1" y="1" width="128" transient="true" speed="10" pause="5" origin="top"/> <line attr="$(datetime:%A %b %Od, %Y %I:%M:%S %p)" font="small" color="bright" bgcolor="dim" x="1" y="27" width="128"/> <playerscreen blendmode="lighten" burnin="true"/> </display_mode> Oh one last thing when I use Hyper term in Win XP pro. Q to the shell, set the drive to RW, paste in my new xml, RO the drive and exit, the system restarts with normal (original) info modes but if I try any menus the display goes crazy  with the old and new info modes going, happens every time. Any ideas? Or is it hey doc it hurts when I do this --- so don’t do that.  Player at 2.00 final Hijack 410 Emphatic 2.04
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#229738 - 25/08/2004 02:42
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: JrFaust]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Why does it always do the weird menu pop-up flippy things on start-up?
It's switching the player info mode to "off" and selecting the visual assigned to the first display mode.
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Does it always default to Cool track?
It always defaults to the first mode in the XML. In the default XML, that's the Cool Track mode. If you'd like to default to another mode, put that mode as the first display_mode entry in the XML file.
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How can I stop the title from going away in this code? I tried transient="false" but that didn't work, sorry if I'm being stupid.
Er, that one's a bug. I'm checking for any value of the transient attribute when I should be looking for only "true." To fix it for now, just remove the "transient" attribute entirely. Then the problem is it's not going to scroll for you, so change it from a "line" field to a "hscroll" (horizontal scroll) field, like this:
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<hscroll attr="$(artist): $(title) $(source:format=\($\))" font="gimungous"
color="bright" bgcolor="transparent" x="1" y="1" width="128" speed="10"
pause="5" origin="top"/>
That one will be fixed in the next release, but the workaround above should do what you want.
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Oh one last thing when I use Hyper term in Win XP pro. Q to the shell, set the drive to RW, paste in my new xml, RO the drive and exit ............
What you didn't tell me is whether you're quitting emphatic first. If you're not, then it is indeed a case of "doc, it hurts..." The best way to work with the XML is probably to edit it on your PC and FTP it over to the empeg, but only after quitting emphatic first. To launch emphatic again, you may wish to use the MENUEXEC command that was added in Hijack recently. Here's what I have in my config.ini:
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;@EXEC_ONCE /usr/local/bin/emphatic
;@MENUEXEC +emphatic exec /usr/local/bin/emphatic
The EXEC_ONCE launches it on startup, the MENUEXEC is there to launch if I decide to quit, but don't feel like restarting my empeg.
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#229739 - 25/08/2004 15:47
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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It always defaults to the first mode in the XML. In the default XML, that's the Cool Track mode. If you'd like to default to another mode, put that mode as the first display_mode entry in the XML file.
Or use the "-m" startup parameter for emphatic in your config.ini, such as -m9 to select the tenth mode (0 is the first one if I recall correctly).
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#229740 - 25/08/2004 15:51
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Or use the "-m" startup parameter for emphatic in your config.ini, such as -m9 to select the tenth mode (0 is the first one if I recall correctly).
That works for now, but it's undocumented, and therefore could disappear at any time. I'm looking into making the mode "sticky" based on what one you had selected last (like the player.)
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#229741 - 25/08/2004 16:03
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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Oops on the not quitting emphatic first.  Thanks I was wondering if there was a way to restart emphatice without rebooting the empeg. Oh and thanks for the code info about the transient problem. It would be cool if you could get it to remember what info mode you were last in, but til then I'll remember to put my fav first.  Thanks again Rob
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#229742 - 25/08/2004 22:08
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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Umm I tried that line to be able to start emphatic up again this is what I get what does it mean?
Using non-standard cache size 124 (adjustment 10)
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
Unable to load file (error #3: Internal Expat parser error)
Expat error #4 (line 98, column 79): not well-formed (invalid token)
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#229743 - 25/08/2004 22:21
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: JrFaust]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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//slaps upside the back of the head.
I messed some code up in the xml file nvm.
Ok fixed the problem, nice I'm liking the posiblities. Now can this work for how the tuner info is displayed as well or is that hard coded?
Thanks, and sorry about all the questions.
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#229744 - 25/08/2004 23:24
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: JrFaust]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Now can this work for how the tuner info is displayed as well or is that hard coded?
I'm not sure how much of the tuner info I'll be able to replicate, as I haven't tried... But custom tuner display is on my list of things to do. For now though, it's just the normal tuner info modes that are built into the player.
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#229745 - 26/08/2004 01:17
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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Cool that you were already thinking about that.
Here's a screen shot of my set up, attached.
Edited by JrFaust (26/08/2004 01:21)
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#229746 - 27/08/2004 15:33
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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I noticed to day a weird thing.  When I change the volume after I first start up or just after a change of songs I get the normal volume bar, but after that I get the neat little volume graphic in the corner. Anyone else have that too? Next I would like to make some custom button controls but I would like to use the long press code for some, what is the xml code I should use if there is one? Oh is there a way to squish the visual like when you bring up transient mode, or even get the visual to display in a box like the new volume graphic? Thanks Rob
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#229747 - 27/08/2004 15:50
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: JrFaust]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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The volume bar thing is a known bug. Seems to be a timing issue that I can't quite narrow down. There are a few other ways I could approach a solution but I haven't investigated them yet because they're more work than I've had time for. But I'll definitely keep this in mind.
You'll have to give me an example of what you mean by "custom button controls." If you tell me exactly what it is you want to do with the buttons, I should be able to figure out if it's doable.
I tried doing the "squish" thing with the player screen early on in the development of 2.0, but because vfdlib (the empeg graphics library) doesn't have any image stretching routines, I had to use a 3rd party library, and it was very unstable for some reason. I might try again someday, though.
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#229748 - 27/08/2004 19:30
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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Bummer on the squishing visual thing.
As for the custom buttons, one button forsure I'd like to change is cancel button. I'd like to mark tracks and cancel out of menus with a normal press and rate with a long press. Does the remote give out a different code for long press or is that interpreted by the player?
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#229749 - 27/08/2004 22:44
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Sorry I have not posted my config.ini yet, I have been having problems with getting my MKIIa to sync and trying to get that fixed. once I get that I will double check with the DC mode and see if it still does it.
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#229750 - 28/08/2004 00:16
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: SonicSnoop]
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Registered: 26/01/2002
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Hi, I believe you need to "quit" out of emphatic before you are able to do a sync.Something about drives being read or something bla bla. Quote:
Another thing which might cause this error is trying to mount/unmount a partition, or perform an Emplode syncronization, while a third-party program is running off of that partition. When a program is active, the partition it's running from is locked and can't be unmounted. For example, if you use the Hijack @EXEC command to launch a program that's been copied to somewhere on the /drive0 partition (which is the same partition that contains the music), then you will be unable to perform a synch and will likely induce this problem. To work around this, use the @DC modifier so that you only run your programs when the player is in the car dock. Click here for more information about hijack commands.
FAQ Link
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#229751 - 28/08/2004 02:58
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: newguy1]
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OMG I went thru that post trying all of the manual fsck on my drives and i missed that one block which fixed it lol. Thank you!
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#229752 - 03/09/2004 17:35
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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I have a question about features.
I have version 2.04 and it works great. The problem is that when the Player starts up it automatically puts a visual on since there isn't any lyrics. When there is a song with lyrics it switches to the vertical lyrics as I put in the XML file.
I push the down button to switch to Info:Off and then again to Info:Now and Next. When in this mode, it will switch to vertical lyrics when there is a song with lyrics and then back to Now and Next when the song finishes.
I would like to have it automatically put it in Now and Next mode on startup unless it sees a song with lyrics and then it would switch to Vertical Lyrics.
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#229753 - 03/09/2004 17:37
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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I would like to have it automatically put it in Now and Next mode on startup unless it sees a song with lyrics and then it would switch to Vertical Lyrics.
This seems doable. I'll try to get it into the next release.
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#229754 - 03/09/2004 18:39
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Actually, I was trying to write an Emphatic display mode that emulated this behavior: Lyrics when there's lyrics, and a simulation of now+next when there's no lyrics. Tony and I discussed that there would need to be one small change to the emphatic code in order for this to happen properly...
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#229755 - 03/09/2004 19:12
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tfabris]
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and a simulation of now+next when there's no lyrics.
Er... Not sure what you mean by a simulation. His idea as I understood it would be to use the real built-in Now and Next, which is doable. Custom (simulated) Now and Next is theoretically doable, but in no way is it a small change.
I was just going to allow a specific player info mode to be chosen with each emphatic custom display mode, which you could choose to write on top of with a vertical lyrics display or whatever.
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#229756 - 03/09/2004 19:27
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Er... Not sure what you mean by a simulation.
Just this:
<line attr="$(artist): '$(title)' [$(source), $(year)]" font="medium" color="bright" bgcolor="dim" x="1" y="1" width="128" height="9" transient="true" speed="100" pause="2" origin="top" show="withoutlyrics"/>
Just like we were discussing in IM. Acts the same as transient, but isn't really transient. The problem is that, in the current emphatic, the blank bar hangs around even after the transient text is done scrolling.
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I was just going to allow a specific player info mode to be chosen with each emphatic custom display mode, which you could choose to write on top of with a vertical lyrics display or whatever.
That would also be very cool.
The end-result would be similar: You get transient data when there's no lyrics.
I like the first option better, though, because it lets me spec additional data points to go into the scrolling bar (source and year in my case).
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#229757 - 03/09/2004 19:30
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
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Okay. You confused me with the talk about simulated Now and Next.
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#229758 - 03/09/2004 19:35
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I realize now that I got completely confused and mixed up the terms "Transient" and "Now and Next".
You're right, getting now and next working in emphatic would not be a small change.
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#229759 - 03/09/2004 19:45
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tfabris]
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#229760 - 23/09/2004 14:25
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tonyc]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Didn't look like this had been mentioned before so...
On exiting emphatic - by clicking knob, going all the way to exit and clicking again, I always end up in hijack menu (as if I had done a long press of the knob)
Is this just an amusing side effect of grabbing button presses?
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#229761 - 23/09/2004 14:33
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: frog51]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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I think that's the standard way that you exit any hijack app.
You go into hijack menu. You run an app in hijack. You exit that app, you're back at the hijack menu. Just makes sense.
The only part that's confusing to you is that Emphatic shows you an emulated (scraped) version of the player screen, so you would think it should drop you back to the player screen. But emphatic didn't come from the player screen, it came from the hijack screen and then scraped the player screen behind the scenes.
Think about it this way. What if the thing you'd run wasn't emphatic. What if it had been tetris. You go into the hijack menu, you run tetris, you exit tetris, you would expect to be back at the hijack menu. Right? Emphatic is no different.
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#229762 - 23/09/2004 14:51
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tfabris]
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#229763 - 23/09/2004 15:10
Re: [emphatic] v2.04 released
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
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Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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cheers - didn't think it was a bug, just wasn't sure...
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