#226089 - 09/07/2004 07:33
some Party message on bootup...
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I can't remember exactly what it said, I was driving off and saw my empeg write some sort of "Party" message on bootup - anyone know what that is about???  Des.
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#226090 - 09/07/2004 08:21
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: deswong]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Amersfoort!!! Nice one, Mark!!!
Mark has been known to embed messages for special dates in the player. When it starts on one of those key dates, it will display a nice message. In this case, the Fifth Annual Amersfoort Meet being held this weekend.
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#226091 - 09/07/2004 10:58
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: deswong]
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veteran
Registered: 21/03/2002
Posts: 1424
Loc: MA but Irish born
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/me rushes off to grab the latest hijack....
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#226092 - 09/07/2004 12:22
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: Phoenix42]
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Registered: 26/08/2003
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Loc: California
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* It's Party Time, Folks! * That is what's displayed. Cruel reminder that I am missing all the fun. 
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#226093 - 09/07/2004 12:33
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: Skunk]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
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I suspected that was coming when I saw it in the kernel sources!
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#226094 - 09/07/2004 14:19
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
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I didn't know it before I read this thread, but somehow I knew it 
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#226095 - 10/07/2004 00:40
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: deswong]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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Anyone checked again since midnight GMT? 
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#226096 - 10/07/2004 07:12
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: genixia]
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old hand
Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
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I suspected that was coming when I saw it in the kernel sources!
No fair, that's like peeking under the bed @ your Christmas presents...
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#226097 - 10/07/2004 15:25
Listen! <crickets>
[Re: davec]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Wow... Strangely quiet on the board this weekend... I wonder why...  So, any reports from Amersfoort???
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#226098 - 10/07/2004 23:32
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: pgrzelak]
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old hand
Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
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Must be too much fun going on over there. No time to keep us updated... And no webcam this year of the BBQ...
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#226099 - 11/07/2004 02:48
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: Phoenix42]
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
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you don't have to. According to Mark the messages have been in there for 6 months or so :-)
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#226100 - 11/07/2004 02:55
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: davec]
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addict
Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
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No broadband this year :-( I'm at home in Germany at the mo, but I way off back over there in an hour. The meet has been great!
And that alpha!
I could tell you what is in it, but evidently Rob Voisy doesn't even know yet! And sorry guys, we're not allowed to distribute it this year either :-(
I can tell you however that they have found a use for the microphone input! and extra memory. Patrick has also had a cunning idea how we can squeeze even more memory in ... without stacking any chips!
Oh, and this year there were THREE releases at the meet!
Edited by Derek (11/07/2004 02:56)
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#226101 - 12/07/2004 09:18
Re: some Party message on bootup...
[Re: genixia]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Yup - and I agree. He does rock - I am doing my best to organise getting there for next year (yes, trying to sort it a year in advance is the only way) Okay, let's see - I have the weekend of the 2nd booked for my sailing, not sure when my practice conference is...can we have the next meet mid July??
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#226103 - 12/07/2004 15:02
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: Derek]
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journeyman
Registered: 02/07/2004
Posts: 95
Loc: 384400 km from the Moon
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More memory did you speak?
I just killed a whole day trying to stack those 4 levels of chips to get a measly 64 MB. 128 or higher would be way better. Do you have any details on how to accomplish the feat without any stacking or daughter boards? Different kind of chips maybe?
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#226104 - 12/07/2004 16:08
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: peakmop]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Patrick is/will be investigating the possibility of making a memory module (SIMM?) adaptor, that with a thin bit of PCB would attach to the test points at the backside of the main board. (PCB, short piece of wire, module holder)
Main doubt he had was about the chance of finding room for the holder/module somewhere.
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#226105 - 12/07/2004 16:30
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: peakmop]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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a measly 64 MB
Come on, it's not like we're running Wndows or any other bloatware. Let's not forget that the player has run fairly happily on 16MB for a few years now.
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#226106 - 12/07/2004 16:39
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: genixia]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Let's not forget that the player has run fairly happily on 16MB for a few years now.
True enough, but with larger and larger drives, the collections tend to grow and so the database... And there are 3rd party apps that also eat away at the 16M, leaving less and less for buffering...
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#226107 - 12/07/2004 16:42
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: genixia]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Quote:
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a measly 64 MB
Come on, it's not like we're running Wndows or any other bloatware. Let's not forget that the player has run fairly happily on 16MB for a few years now.
Word. I've compiled and run X, Evolution, Mozilla and KDE3 on a 32MB machine. 64MB is loads.
Peter
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#226108 - 12/07/2004 17:00
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: mtempsch]
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Registered: 21/03/2002
Posts: 1424
Loc: MA but Irish born
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Would these SIMMs be the same SIMMs that would have been used in Pentium 1 PCs, of which my department rcently scrapped a load that some how all went out the door with out RAM?
So I'm a packrat, and this does sound intresting.
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#226109 - 12/07/2004 17:29
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: Phoenix42]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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My memory is lousy on this stuff (memory versions/sockets), and I didn't write it down, but "memory module, 64M, still very available dirt cheap" points to something like that... Still, Patrick came up with the idea on the spot during the discussion and hasn't yet (well, who knows by now ) looked at the nitty gritty -- just so we don't jump overboard... Chip stacking is proven to work and even 32M is probably all one's likely to need. Hmmm, where'd I hear something similar..?..  One big thing about this lovely idea was that it'd be an easier (soldering wise) route than the chip stacking.
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#226110 - 12/07/2004 17:52
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: mtempsch]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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Me, I could put all my music on one drive, leaving a goodly amount of space. Quote:
Main doubt he had was about the chance of finding room for the holder/module somewhere.
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#226111 - 12/07/2004 18:03
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: mtempsch]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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Still, Patrick came up with the idea on the spot during the discussion and hasn't yet (well, who knows by now ) looked at the nitty gritty
We watched Patrick sit in the bar for a couple of hours last night, busy designing the upgrade module on his laptop (while entertaining us with his usual ramblings of course).
When he first discussed it on the Saturday he was talking about an existing SIMM (or was it DIMM) plugged into a module soldered where the current memory chips are.
By the time he had finished last night he instead had a board design that would sit under the mainboard, with memory chips soldered directly to the new module. The circuit board design was titled "Empeg Mk2 128MB upgrade board"...
He wasn't sure if there was going to be enough room for it. He said he was planning to work on it some more over the next couple of weeks.
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#226112 - 12/07/2004 18:15
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: mtempsch]
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journeyman
Registered: 02/07/2004
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Initially I had a similar idea of using some sort of daughter board, desolder original memory chips and solder thin flex wires to the mounting points of the chips. The problem with that setup was that I needed a lot of through holes on the daughter board since I cannot make routing lines between the 0.8mm pitch of the chip legs (at least not in my home-brewed prototyping lab), so I gave in to the stacking solution. You see, I'm not really satisfied with the memory size until my hard drives spin only once per each play list (e.g. an album). Besides, the SA1100 chip does not have math co-processor, so that makes it slower than say Pentium 200 Mhz.
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#226113 - 12/07/2004 18:26
Re: Listen! (soldering noises)
[Re: mtempsch]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
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Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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He's on design number 2 now, and routed it this morning - it does tend to mean rather a lot more memory than he originally thought.... 
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#226114 - 12/07/2004 18:34
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: peakmop]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
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Besides, the SA1100 chip does not have math co-processor, so that makes it slower than say Pentium 200 Mhz.
Only if you're running Matlab or something else that is floating point intensive. Don't forget that the ARM is a RISC architecture and achieves similar performance at a fraction of the power.
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#226115 - 12/07/2004 19:36
Re: Listen! (soldering noises)
[Re: schofiel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
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Ahhh... Well, the more the merrier I guess
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#226116 - 12/07/2004 19:51
Re: Listen! (soldering noises)
[Re: schofiel]
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Will it coexist with existing upgrades?
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#226117 - 12/07/2004 20:52
Re: Listen! (soldering noises)
[Re: genixia]
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enthusiast
Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 248
Loc: Swindon, UK
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No. ALL the existing memory chips will be removed and the area will have to be cleaned so the new bits can bit fitted. Don't envy Rob on that task 
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#226118 - 12/07/2004 23:41
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: andy]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Lordy, what a MACHINE that guy is. Without looking, I wonder if a DIMM slot could be mounted on the sidewall of the board. Or, on the bottom of the back of the drive tray. But heck, if he can make it fit on the underside, than rock on.
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#226119 - 13/07/2004 05:39
Re: Listen! <crickets>
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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But heck, if he can make it fit on the underside, than rock on.
Patrick came up with a cunning way to implement do-it-yourself almost-BGA. It will involve a 0.8mm PCB that is soldered onto the existing pads once the chips have been removed (or onto the test pads on the back of the board).
From the sound of it, it didn't sound like it would be easy though, so I'm going to hassle Hugo to do mine when Patrick's got the boards ready .
This will then use a ribbon cable to connect to another board which has the SIMM holder.
It'll almost certainly have to be a SIMM, because the ARM can only talk to EDO chips, and doesn't support SDRAM, which (AFAIK) rules out DIMMs.
The main problem was where to stow the SIMM.
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