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#216893 - 23/05/2004 18:06 OK, I've broken it !! Help Please
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
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So i've no idea what i've done, but here are the symptoms.

Player boots ok, and seem to play fine.
BUT ONLY WITHIN ONE SONG.

If you try to move to the next or previous song, the play just locks up. I'm also getting some random reboots.

Initially I got this after editing the config.ini for some IR Translate codes but surely that can't be it ?

I have tried flashing with 2.00 but this didn't make any difference and i've also taken the entire IR Translate section out of the config.ini

I can sync as long as the player is paused or in standby, but if the player is playing, syncing stops or fails.

edit : More testing ! .. definately the player locks up either when you forward to the next song, or it gets to the end of the current song. It is like as though it can't find the next song ? If you reboot the player it boots to the next song you tried to access. Bizarre !!

Any advise very welcome !!!

Thanks


Edited by LTJBukem (23/05/2004 18:25)
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#216894 - 23/05/2004 18:59 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: LTJBukem]
maczrool
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Corrupted files maybe? Can you get it to play different files or is it always stuck on the same file?

Stu
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#216895 - 23/05/2004 20:14 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: LTJBukem]
oliver
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Can you post your modified config.ini file?
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#216896 - 23/05/2004 21:36 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: LTJBukem]
tfabris
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If your player has more than one disk drive, there is a chance that one of them is giving you trouble and that the lockup is caused by the player trying to play a song from the bad disk drive. See if you can get the player to function normally by starting it up with no song selected. In any event, make sure to rule out disk drive problems, then do a file system check and if necessary try to refresh the database files.
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#216897 - 24/05/2004 03:03 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: tfabris]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
Thanks Guys,

It'll take me a while to get through all of those things ...

However, as a precautions i've have started an 'Emplode' Download to my PC to backup all the music. This is going to take 13 hours or so, and it seems to be working through in FID order ...

If this completes without a hitch can we effectively rule out Hard Disk problems ?

BTW, I have a 20gb and a 30gb drive in my player.

So assuming the backup of the music goes ok, and if we then assume that the HD's and the IDE cable are ok, this has to be a Hardware or a Database issue ?

I can pause the player and operate the menus as normal so the buttons are actually working.

I have checked Hyperterminal (boot process) and nothing seems odd compared to the FAQ, but it does say the message about needing to FSCK because the checkpoint had been reached, However when I syncd with emplode a few times it didn't seem to do this and the message didn't go away.

I will post the Hyperterminal later if this helps..

So I think it is the database ?, but I think that it's odd in the way that the problem occurs ...

1. Player boots normally.
2. Player plays song until then end of the song
3. Then Hangs. No button response at all and I have to cycle the power.
4. When you cycle the power, the player is magically at the start of the next song

So it's like the player cannot find the song when playing, but when you reboot it finds it.

Any more ideas .. ? I'll do the system check and refresh the DB files after the backup has completed just to be safe.

Thanks


Edited by LTJBukem (24/05/2004 03:41)
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#216898 - 24/05/2004 15:20 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: LTJBukem]
LTJBukem
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Hi all,

The backup completed successfully without a hitch so I assumed no Hard Disk problem.

I FSCK'd it and rebuilt the database but the symptoms are still exactly the same.

Here is the HyperTerminal for this that know.

ircomm_tty
˙If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
Starting k
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!096K sizetions enabled
empeg si

e000 v1.04 IDES00 at
Copying kernel...
Probing primary
Calling linux kernel...
hda: F
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerneSU MHR2030AT D, ATA DISK drivet 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
ide0 at 0
l.0-
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)el button initialised.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40103268)MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:0c:c
empeg state support
Command line: mem=16m (save to d0005480).
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4ti
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)b4boot)
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found a
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into
Buffer cache hash table entri

TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)T D, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
I se
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
emp
Mounting procr initialized
Mountin
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )nt /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19rik Stahlman (erik@vt.ed
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )) at 0x40080
Remounting first music partition read-only0c:c
Starting kswapd v 1.5ounting second music

empeg-car bootstr
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'.com)ended
Scheduling custom logo.
If there is anyone
empeg display initialised.de the flash, let them spe
empeg dsp audio initialisedump v0.03 (19980601)
empeg dsp mixer initialisedtr
or forever hold their pe
empeg dsp initialisedt fly the Penguins of
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
Trying to unmount old root ...

e000 v1.04
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.ling linux kernel...g init 0.8
Un
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012............eveloper image!
smc chip id/revision 0x3349ries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)l
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)e cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)or forev

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:0c:c
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2

e000 v1.04
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Partition check:sea University C
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
Uncompressing Linux.............
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4he kerne
IP Protocol
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommendedrotocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )el StrongARM-1100 re
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
ircomm_tty: virtual tty dri
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)d May 2l Co
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc8030000 (irq
Mounting first music partitiones: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19ash table en
Scheduling custom logo.4k)
Mounting second music partition.
Page cache hash tab
emp
Remounting first music partition read-only
empeg dsp mixer initialisedOSIX c
Remounting second music partition read-only

empeg audio-in initial
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply... remote control/panel button initialised.
NET4: Linux TC
Starting player usb initialise

e000 v1.04rial optio
Copying kernel...0-0x007,0x038 on
Calling linux kernel...
hda: FU
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 1
hdb: FUJITSU MHR2030AT D, 28615MB w/2048k
l.ac
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2ART
empeg-flash driver init

POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIXroot: old root has d_count=1UJITSU
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k ini
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
ide0

IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCPge!
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)c partition16/63
Tried to mo
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)T D, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )mounting first music partition read-only
smc chi
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 ) Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Ze
Starting kswapd v 1.5. at 0x4008000 IRQ:7
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabledg player

empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialisedld their peace...it seems n
empeg dsp initialisedns of Linux!
emp
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
Press Ctrl-A

e000 v1.04p...hange_
Copying
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.l...
Uncompressing Linu
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012ne, booting the kerneFreeing unused kern
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005b00).l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@mage!
empeg RDS driver

ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6.. 207.67 BogoMIPS
hda: FUJITSU MHM2200AT, 19077MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38760/16/63e, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)5:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01
hdb: FUJITSU MHR2030AT D, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
empeg-flash driver initializedle entries: 16384 (order 4, 64
smc chip id/revision 0x3349m)
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)o wants to up
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...hange_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01.
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003
Vcb: 0x4086d000

Any thing else I can try would be very welcome !!

Thanks
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#216899 - 24/05/2004 16:49 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: LTJBukem]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
Update !!

It appears to be working.

I tried all the software options, but basically it seems it is a physical problem with either the HD connector on the board or (hopefully) the cable. A new cable is on it's way to me from Eutronix.

Thanks for the help everyone.

Hopefully the unit will hold out a bit longer!
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#216900 - 24/05/2004 17:01 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: LTJBukem]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Also make sure to check the solder joints on the IDE header.
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#216901 - 25/05/2004 00:27 Re: OK, I've broken it !! Help Please [Re: tfabris]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
I did.

With my eyesight they looked fine. When i change the cable i'll get a magnifying glass and have a better look.

Cheers
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