the player was in sync, and accidentally the power got shut off. as i tried to restart it, and run emplode again, it failed to read that my player had any music on it. even when i scroll thru my playlist on the player, it shows that there is none. is all my memory gone? all 25 gigs of music that i had on there so far? if not, how can i go about retreiving it? i already reloaded beta 2.0 on it, and that didnt help at all. what do i do?

Does your player have one hard disk or two? If two, it might be this problem. It also could be this problem. Check those.

more than likely, since the sync didnt finish cleanly, the playlist didnt get generated. so the songs are probably orphaned. refs=0 in search show them.

more than likely, since the sync didnt finish cleanly, the playlist didnt get generated

Would that happen if he had 25 gigs of stuff that was already on there? Would it lose/ruin an existing playlist, or would it just have the old version of the playlist?

i dont have experience with hijak or hyper terminal, so could u please tell me what i need to do? where is the FAQ as to what i need to do?

i ran the search, and nothing poopped up, but only the music that i have just loaded on to it.

i dont have experience with hijak or hyper terminal, so could u please tell me what i need to do? where is the FAQ as to what i need to do?

If you follow the links I just gave, all of the necessary information is sub-linked from there. Please read through those links VERY carefully and follow their sub-links.

when i am entering the follwing commands in hyperterminal
rwm
rm /drive0/var/database
rm /drive0/var/database3
rm /drive0/var/tags
rm /drive0/var/playlists
rm /drive1/var/database
rm /drive1/var/database3
rm /drive1/var/tags
rm /drive1/var/playlists
am i supposed to hit enter after each line? thats stupid, bu i did, and i went thru all the commands the FAQ said to do, and nothign happened

and nothign happened

Are you running the developer version of the software?

If you are not running the developer version of the software, you won't get a shell prompt when you Q and nothing will happen when you type those commands.

Make absolutely sure to go through every single step listed in the FAQ, from the very top, in exact order. Making sure you were on the developer version was one of the steps.

Did you also rule out disk drive problems before starting that procedure, as was listed in the FAQ?

ya,
i ruled out that disc problem
and i am running the delepoer version
ill go thru it once more.
thanks for being prompt

So are you getting a shell prompt when you Q?

What EXACTLY does the screen look like when you run through those commands? Copy and paste from Hyperterminal if need be. Also copy and paste the section of the boot log where it detects the disk drives.

this is what it looks like
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received SIGINT, user interruption
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# rwm
EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended

here is some more

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:0f:2
3
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received SIGINT, user interruption
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# rwm
EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended
rm /drive0/var/database
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive0/var/database
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive0/var/database3
rm: cannot remove `/drive0/var/database3': No such file or directory
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive0/var/tags
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive0/var/playlists
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive1/var/database
rm: cannot remove `/drive1/var/database': No such file or directory
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive1/var/database3
rm: cannot remove `/drive1/var/database3': No such file or directory
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive1/var/tags
rm: cannot remove `/drive1/var/tags': No such file or directory
empeg:/empeg/bin# rm /drive1/var/playlists
rm: cannot remove `/drive1/var/playlists': No such file or directory

Okay, it looks like it's doing what it's supposed to be doing for the most part. You are getting both drives detected, the bash prompt is appearing. and the commands are executing as expected.

However, there are two problems I see. Here is problem one:

Abnormal player termination
Player received SIGINT, user interruption

I don't think it's supposed to exit the player with an error like that. I could be wrong.

EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended

This indicates there is something wrong with the file systems. You have ignored the text in that FAQ entry telling you exactly what to do if you get an E2FSCK error message. Please follow those instructions, then repeat the procedure and see if your playlists come back after that.

i did what you told me to do.
here is what it says
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
change_root: old root has d_countempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 1
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
Restored terminal settings
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Abnormal player termination
Player received SIGINT, user interruption
Switching to shell-player loop
Starting bash.
empeg:/empeg/bin# ro
empeg:/empeg/bin# umount /dev/hda4
empeg:/empeg/bin# um
empeg:/empeg/bin# swapon /swapfile
Adding Swap: 16596k swap-space (priority -1)
empeg:/empeg/bin# fsck -fay /
Parallelizing fsck version 1.19 (13-Jul-2000)
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hda5 is mounted.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/hda5: 1514/4096 files (0.5% non-contiguous), 9457/16384 blocks
empeg:/empeg/bin# fsck -fay /dev/hda4
Parallelizing fsck version 1.19 (13-Jul-2000)
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hda4 is mounted.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/hda4: 87/228288 files (20.7% non-contiguous), 136994/29219400 blocks
empeg:/empeg/bin# fsck -fay /dev/hdc4
Parallelizing fsck version 1.19 (13-Jul-2000)
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hdc4 is mounted.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/hdc4: 69/228288 files (26.1% non-contiguous), 136518/29219400 blocks
empeg:/empeg/bin# swapoff /swapfile
empeg:/empeg/bin# sync
empeg:/empeg/bin#
empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315
(release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40103875)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entri
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, ATA DISK drive
hdb: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
hdb: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Er

Okay, now try opening it in Emplode and see if your files are there now.

its not there.
oh well

Try this:

Get to a BASH prompt.

cd /drive0/fids
ls -l

Note, those are Lower-case letter L's there in that last command, not i's.

its been loading music database all this time since i gave those commands
what do i write in the shell prompt now?

its been loading music database all this time since i gave those commands
what do i write in the shell prompt now?

Like I said in the FAQ entry...

If that happens, click here and perform the procedure to manually FSCK the disks. You might need to repeat the above procedure after a manual FSCK.

this is what hyperterminal had on the screen

99040 Aug 12 04:01 e60
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 212 Aug 12 04:01 e71
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 3016704 Aug 12 04:01 e80
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 202 Aug 12 04:01 e91
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 5294767 Aug 12 04:01 ea0
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 144 Aug 12 04:01 ec1
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 3858309 Aug 12 04:01 ed0
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 189 Aug 12 04:01 ee1
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 4971752 Aug 12 04:02 ef0
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 176 Aug 12 04:02 f01
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 5628032 Aug 12 04:02 f10
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 181 Aug 12 04:02 f41
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 2338448 Aug 12 04:02 f50
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 214 Aug 12 04:02 f61
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 2889769 Aug 12 04:02 f70
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 242 Aug 12 18:17 f81
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 202 Aug 12 04:02 f91
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 3317591 Aug 12 04:02 fa0
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 171 Aug 12 04:02 fb1
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 3593155 Aug 12 04:02 fc0
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 185 Aug 12 04:03 fd1
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 3294264 Aug 12 04:03 fe0
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 128 Aug 12 04:03 fe1
-rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 3283508 Aug 12 04:03 ff0
empeg:/drive0/fids#
so what do i enter in the prompt now, since its still loading the music database it says. i am gonna step on it. ugghh

this is what hyperterminal had on the screen

Are those the ONLY files in that folder? That's not many, that's only a few songs.

Are you sure you didn't accidentally press delete on the root playlist or something?

pretty sure. but the player still has on the screen, "loading music database".
do i just shut off power?

but the player still has on the screen, "loading music database". do i just shut off power?

Oh, now I see your question.

Once you drop to the shell prompt, the screen doesn't change. Only the player software changes the screen. What you're seeing is just whatever was on the screen the last time before you got to the shell prompt.

I thought you were saying the player froze on "loading music database" every time you turned on the power. You're just saying that the screen still says it while you're at the shell prompt. That's normal.

When you are done at the shell prompt, type "exit" to get back to the regular software. If you haven't set the drives to read-write, you can also shut off the power if you like.

thanks tony

tony, i am pretty sure i need a new HD cable. how can i go about getting a nwe one?

tony, i am pretty sure i need a new HD cable. how can i go about getting a nwe one?

I thought you said you ruled that out.

Information on repairing the cable or getting a new one is here.