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#160075 - 13/05/2003 11:10 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: JBjorgen]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
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#160076 - 13/05/2003 11:10 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
robricc
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
That looks like THE SHIT! Congratulations guys.
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#160077 - 13/05/2003 11:13 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Very cool Rob. I wasn't even considering getting another mp3 player since I have my Empeg, but now that I've seen some pics I can see how handy it'd be to have something so small. You can tell your marketing people you might have made a sale if I have the money when the Pearl comes out; too bad you won't get a commission!
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#160078 - 13/05/2003 11:40 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Mmmmmmm.... 100 megabit ethernet port on the back.... RCA jacks..... DROOOOOOOL....
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#160079 - 13/05/2003 11:54 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
Redrum
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Registered: 17/01/2003
Posts: 998
Cool man.... just don't send out any "Bad Karma" man....

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#160080 - 13/05/2003 12:34 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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#160081 - 13/05/2003 12:48 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
I'm so glad to see that dockable ethernet didn't end up on the cutting room floor as I assumed it would. Can you tell us if the dock going to cost extra? Soon it'll be time to break out the hammer and smash the piggy bank.

Matthew

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#160082 - 13/05/2003 13:52 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: tfabris]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Interesting...I don't see a DC power input. Does it charge with power from the USB? I think I'll be stashing away some shekels for this puppy.

Drooool.....

-Zeke
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#160083 - 13/05/2003 13:54 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Ezekiel]
tonyc
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Looks like a DC power input on the dock to me, in between the white RCA jack and the USB connector.
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#160084 - 13/05/2003 13:55 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: tonyc]
Ezekiel
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That small? It looked too wee to be a DC input.

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#160085 - 13/05/2003 13:57 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Ezekiel]
tonyc
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That small? It looked too wee to be a DC input.
Yeah, and the Pearl/Karma looks too wee to be an MP3 player with many gigs of storage.
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#160086 - 13/05/2003 14:00 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: tonyc]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Hey, I can get a USB charger for my PDA & phone, why not do it with this? Everyone hates wall warts.

-Zeke

edit: Not that having a wall wart would dissuade me from purchasing...


Edited by Ezekiel (13/05/2003 14:01)
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#160087 - 13/05/2003 14:03 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Ezekiel]
tonyc
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I agree with you in theory, but then people with no USB would be shut out. Bestest solution would be allow power from either, of course.
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#160088 - 13/05/2003 14:05 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
That small? It looked too wee to be a DC input.
If it's anything like the other recent portable players that Rio's done (such as the S50), it's an extra-small connector, much smaller than what's on the car player.
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#160089 - 13/05/2003 14:26 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Ezekiel]
Folsom
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Registered: 12/08/2001
Posts: 175
Loc: Atlanta
Interesting...I don't see a DC power input

The jack is a mini-USB connector.

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#160090 - 13/05/2003 14:34 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: tfabris]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Correct, the DC input is the small hole next to the micro USB port. It's that small so we can use the same AC adapter when the player is not docked.

Rob

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#160091 - 13/05/2003 14:37 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
Damn, no PoE?
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#160092 - 13/05/2003 14:38 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Ezekiel]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
You can only take 500mA from USB - this is not enough to run the player and trickle charge the battery.

500mA is enough to trickle charge a mobile phone, which doesn't have to contend with impulse currents when a hard disk spins up. Even so many mobiles take more, but the USB charger manufacturers don't care about USB compliance.

FYI our other (smaller) new portables do take power from USB.

Rob

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#160093 - 13/05/2003 14:41 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: ricin]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Damn, no PoE?

No, sorry, neither of the installed POE users wanted a Pearl

Rob

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#160094 - 13/05/2003 14:43 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: tfabris]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
If it's anything like the other recent portable players that Rio's done (such as the S50), it's an extra-small connector, much smaller than what's on the car player

In fact it's a smaller connector than the S50 one! We are using the same connector on Slate, so it had to be very small! It is a readily available standard, though, and of course you get an AC Adapter with the player.

Rob

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#160095 - 13/05/2003 14:46 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: matthew_k]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I'm so glad to see that dockable ethernet didn't end up on the cutting room floor as I assumed it would. Can you tell us if the dock going to cost extra?

The dock is included with the player. The plan is to sell additional docks, if there's any demand for them (I believe there will be).

Rob

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#160096 - 13/05/2003 14:46 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
"...neither of the installed POE users..."

ROFLMAO!

Screen's dry as I'm out of coffee.

-Zeke


Edited by Ezekiel (13/05/2003 14:47)
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#160097 - 13/05/2003 14:47 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Redrum]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Cool man.... just don't send out any "Bad Karma" man

..so you should probably check out the firmware recovery mode if you get a Pearl

Rob

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#160098 - 13/05/2003 14:51 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
FYI our other (smaller) new portables do take power from USB

Ah, so you're also already working on the successor of Pearl ?
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#160099 - 13/05/2003 14:54 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: BartDG]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I think he means the non-hard drive based portables. You know, CompactFlash, et al.
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#160100 - 13/05/2003 15:14 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: wfaulk]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I think he means the non-hard drive based portables. You know, CompactFlash, et al.
Not necessarily. We saw a really slick one at the West Coast dinner at The Stinking Rose. It was hard disk based, but small as hell. I'm not sure if I should say anything more about it though (capacity).
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#160101 - 13/05/2003 15:22 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: robricc]
rob
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Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Slate was discussed with the press at CES so its not all that secret. 1.5GB capacity in a unit substantially smaller than the current flash players.

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#160102 - 13/05/2003 15:31 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Cool. Didn't remeber its code name.
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#160103 - 13/05/2003 16:40 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: rob]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Bah. Way more than that.

I'm tired of having a cord for my Cisco 7940; I really want PoE here.

Which reminds me, I've only used it for SIP calls. I wonder what its phone number is?

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#160104 - 14/05/2003 09:32 Re: Best Portable player right now? [Re: Daria]
booey
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 113
How bout this name for the new (Pearl) unit...
-Empeg Jr!-

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